Steyn

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Steyn

Steyn

@Steyn_123

Katılım Ağustos 2012
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Steyn
Steyn@Steyn_123·
@TumishoMasha Lol you guys have been saying for years eff will blow up next election. Before his arrested eff was at 6%. It will keep decreasing because only cult members defend Malema, those with brains don't.
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Tumisho Masha
Tumisho Masha@TumishoMasha·
And for that we shall thank them by making sure EFF grows to 20% in the next elections and more in the national elections
Rob Hersov@RobertHersov

Show @afriforum some love today. It was AfriForum that laid the criminal charges against Julius Malema and it was AfriForum's private prosecution unit that had to threaten legal action to force the NPA to make a decision to prosecute.

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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@johny_theblessd People watch it now because parliament is a joke. Parli should be boring not look like a Episode of Desperate Housewives. "Doctor" with no brains.
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Dr Maheya
Dr Maheya@johny_theblessd·
Julius Malema is one of the few that shaped South Africa parliament before EFF no one watched RSA parliament proceedings. He doesn't deserve to be humiliated like this especially for petty crimes.
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@NJB781 @apratt_pratt @JordiGriff So your argument is because there are murderers means we should prosecute people who do lesser crimes? Buddy the law is the law. Cry all you want. He isn't appealing his guilty sentence only the duration of his sentence. He can no longer be an MP.
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Jordan Griffiths
Jordan Griffiths@JordiGriff·
Is there really any point in trying to appeal? Realistically what are the prospects of success. There's a video of the man firing a gun in a public setting and putting lives at risk. Sounds to me like one of those go straight to jail, do not pass begin, do not collect $200.
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@LammBoz @Mqadi99 Yup, anyone saying anything like this can't sit on the jsc.
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Lammie
Lammie@LammBoz·
@Mqadi99 This is the very guy who sits on JSC interviewing and recomming the judiciary...🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@Tessa_Dooms Um no. This is an unprecedented case. So why must you now deal with it like it's a lessee case? Lmao that makes no sense. How do you think case law is developed??? By looking at new facts.
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Tessa Dooms
Tessa Dooms@Tessa_Dooms·
@Steyn_123 This is exactly why it would have been better for her judgment to deal with the cases that were presented. Either way, the appeal court will decide.
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Tessa Dooms@Tessa_Dooms·
So the judge basically dismissed all other cases that set precedence? Wow.
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@NJB781 @apratt_pratt @JordiGriff No, it's not aimed at thugs using them for other crimes. This is the crime of discharging of a firearm, not pointing of a firearm. They are seperate offences. Even accidental discharge of a firearm is a crime. Buddy the law is the law, discharging a firearm is a serious crime.
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BNJ781
BNJ781@NJB781·
@apratt_pratt @Steyn_123 @JordiGriff That's the maximum sentence. And like I said aimed entirely at thugs who are using them for other crimes. A short sentence and fine is far more proportionate in these circumstances. Pistorius got 6 years the first time and he killed someone!
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Le rata depth gore.
Malema is not a perfect man, sure. But for you guys to agree and side with AfriForum? Insane. You’re literally siding with beneficiaries of your oppression. Insane principles.
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Hinokami Kagura
Hinokami Kagura@Khuze_Elikhulu·
Julius Malema was charged not because he shot a gun in the air, but because Afriforum opened a case against him for shooting a gun in the air. If we want Afriforum charged with treason/incitement/whatever, someone has to stand up and go and open (and pursue) a case against them.
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Hinokami Kagura
Hinokami Kagura@Khuze_Elikhulu·
Nobody can say Julius did not shoot a gun in the air. And nobody can say what he did isn't a crime. It is just a crime that people have generally gotten away with coz nobody ever bothered to prosecute it. Until him. Somebody has to pursue *them*
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@Tessa_Dooms He didn't do it negligently he did it intentionally and it was planned. Most firearm discharges are accidental and in the heat of the moment. Also doesn't endanger so many people. Most people also admit they did it instead of lying under oath.
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@Tessa_Dooms So all facts considered he should get a heavy sentence. Law prescribes 5-15 years. He got 5.
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@Tessa_Dooms So let's get this straight. He had no remorse Lied under oath The offence was pre mediated He knew it was illegal, he's a lawmaker 20k people endangered. His mitigation was - I grew up poor.
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@Kolobe07 @Am_Blujay @mogaleadii26 Okay so if I drive 300kmh pass a school and no one is harmed, I'm not guilty of reckless driving? What dumb logic is this. Please explain. A crime isn't a crime because of consequences. So attempted murder is now also legal? Crime is crime you fool.
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Blaq Thoughts 💚👆💛
@Am_Blujay @mogaleadii26 Dali Mpofu Zwelinzima Vavi Ace Magashule are all slamming the racist court. Then there are stupid Black South African celebrating. Ninyile 🤣🤣
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The Instigator
The Instigator@Am_Blujay·
Ace Magashule SLAMS magistrate over Malema conviction! "No one was harmed" - ACT leader claims firearm case is politically motivated, not fair application of law. Accuses court of playing political games. 📹 Joseph Mokoaledi of Daily Sun
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@apratt_pratt @JordiGriff Then he is fucked. Because malema kept lying under oath, saying it's a toy gun, showed no remorse. 5 years might become 3,but I doubt he'll escape prison.
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Andrew
Andrew@apratt_pratt·
@JordiGriff The case itself has not been appealed . That stands as guilty . The sentence itself (term) has been appealed - another court may come to a different conclusion - sentence term . It can be at his detriment. The other court find the sentence to lenient and increase it !!
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Lunga_mzangwe
Lunga_mzangwe@lunga_mzangwe·
WATCH: Some senior EFF members had a standoff with AfriForum members inside the court after party president Julius Malema was released on warning. They described the AfriForum members as terrorists. @mailandguardian
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Mr K
Mr K@KatBetz123·
@Steyn_123 @eNCA Since you so clued up why don’t you go ahead and explain it to us ?
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eNCA
eNCA@eNCA·
[BREAKING] EFF leader Julius Malema gets five years direct imprisonment. More details to follow. Tune in to #eNCA, channel #DStv403
eNCA tweet media
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@Tessa_Dooms And yes a precedent only works when facts are simmilar. If they are wildly different then how can a precedent apply with said facts? This wasn't an accidental discharge.
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Tessa Dooms@Tessa_Dooms·
@Steyn_123 So the details have to be exact for the judge to weigh precedence? Ok
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Steyn@Steyn_123·
@Tessa_Dooms Okay brother show me where she went off presence, which cases, what were the facts. Since you allege this show me the proof. There is probably no moron dumb enough to shooting in a stadium and the lie to a judge like this.
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