Stoic Traditionalist

It's not particularly well done. Don't get me wrong, I'm grateful for the conversation. That's why I wrote in the first place. Christian's rebuttal will persuade some simply because it sounds very academic, but it's a good bit of weak gymnastics to support his point, and he never really ends up refuting mine. The biggest obstacle to proving his conclusion? Fr. Ripperger himself. But again... I'm grateful for the dialogue, though he should have linked my article (but perhaps it was an oversight). I would love to respond and hopefully will have the time soon. My article was not intended to be an end in itself but a jumping-off point for conversations that need to be had. That is happening and it's a good thing. Incidentally, those defending Father R who are using lies, personal attacks, and vile behavior to do it, are not doing him any favors. They simply confirm for his opponents that his work has bad fruit. So if you see them, perhaps kindly correct them. Finally, I have appreciated Father very much in the past. I even purchased books of his. There's probably still a photo up of one on my IG. But his teachings have changed. His method has changed. And it is good for Father and for the Church to talk about it. Great men do fall by inches. And sometimes it's exorcists.

Im really getting sick of this guy. He just make things up about trads so he can make himself feel better about going to a bad parish. Literally the only people I’ve ever heard talk about how capitalism isn’t good are trads. The Novus Ordo boomers are the epitome of wealthy capitalist ghouls who don’t care about the poor. Keep coping moron. Keep creating caricatures to make yourself feel better. I’m done with your garbage writing, and ridiculous insults. You’re in a bad situation because you’re a mediocre writer. Not because you’re choosing poverty to be holy. You’re a knock off Bug Hall who trashes other Catholics for absolutely no reason. Have fun with that.

I truly do not understand why it needs to be this way. I mean, Dorothy Day went to the Latin Mass, too... as did St Francis.. But today the TLM is weirdly and inexplicably associated with a deep fetishization of wealth + strong skepticism of Christ's criticisms of wealth. To even suggest that renunciation of wealth (or a distinterest in it) might merit some consideration in the Christian life will, in some of these circles, elicit a horrified or offended response. They seem to apply many asterisks to any portion of the Christian canon that would point toward even the mildest critiques of wealth-seeking behavior. This leads me to believe that many present-day TLM people have adopted some "extra" ideas that weren't necessarily prevalent amongst the laity in the preconciliar Church. Prior to Vatican II, I'm not sure that it was commonly thought that Catholics have some kind of a moral obligation to get rich. If anything, I'd imagine the majority of Catholics over time thought something much closer to the contrary -- which would be understandable given Christ's teachings on the subject.