Street Legal Podcast

(there are many more implications that i didn’t discuss here that i will discuss in future episodes i hope)

NEW EPISODE OUT NOW! A brief, informal overview of yesterday’s events and an inquiry into some of the implications open.spotify.com/episode/121yh4…

episode uploading now 👀

fyi i’m still going through the rest of the timeline and dissecting these exhibits idc

@SMMcMinimee but of course they’d have to believe he had the final say and not “the board and jim” as the execs insist so yeah definitely more complicated than just that detachment factor but it certainly doesn’t help their argument that they’re doing what’s best for the sport.

@SMMcMinimee Ah that makes sense. I agree it will definitely make the jury wonder how/why he doesn’t know those things. I do wonder if his general detachment will lead the jury to infer he doesn’t know what’s best for the sport anymore and made decisions that protected his ownership above all

everything i’ve heard about jim france’s testimony indicates to me that it went terribly

Probst is on the stand now, and the one notable quote I picked up on is that he said when OEMs join the sport, it causes the other OEMs to renegotiate better terms for teams to try to keep them. This is the complete opposite strategy NASCAR’s defense has said the sanctioning body would do if there were a rival stock car series.

@Jacobdean1342 It’s certainly a big point but I think there’s a lot more to the case than just this testimony. It’s a complicated case and juries can be unpredictable especially when they may not understand everything in as much depth as we do.

@StreetLegalPod do you think this will be what decides this case once the arguments have wrapped-up? this kind of incompetence from nascar surely won’t be forgotten if i’m the jury, right?

@Jacobdean1342 yeah to me it has sounded like the teams have been willing to address tough questions and explain away bad facts if they can. this is the exact opposite.

@StreetLegalPod idk about you but for all the grilling the teams & denny hamlin have received i honestly can’t recall it going this badly for them so far. like yea denny was humbled & 23xi has been shown-up factually a few times but at least it sounds like they’ve been able to remain competent!

just listened to the worst piece of legal analysis i’ve ever heard about this case and it was done by distinguished antitrust sports lawyers/professors who were so confident but so wrong about almost everything they said

plus, new episodes coming after December 18th

Did you hear Michael Jordan is suing NASCAR for antitrust violations? Are you curious about the complicated economic system that led to this lawsuit? If yes, then listen to Street Legal for a detailed history of NASCAR’s economic model from 1948-2012 open.spotify.com/episode/6Ia06K…

define defamation in legal terms…quickly

if this comes in, i can’t imagine it will play well to the jury.

lesson of the day: don’t put anything in writing that you wouldn’t be okay with becoming a public record

just recorded another episode for two and a half hours and got through ONE (1) more year of the timeline & spent most of it on one exhibit….so i’m editing that and getting it to you all soon 💀

wait wrong excerpt above here’s the right one

& if you throw out the section 1 claim now, the risk the 4th Circuit (who has historically been somewhat confused by this case) gets rid of the charter system on appeal or something crazy is gone.

okay i see people struggling section 1: REQUIRES conspiracy or agreement i.e two or more people/entities agreeing to do something anticompetitive (most if not all of the NCAA cases). It’s broader than section 2, typically less technical economic analysis involved.