Tobias Schubeis
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@TSchubeis @nmr900 Well, if it is AB spin system you have no longer struggle with such a “big coupling”. Because it is just chem shift difference between A and B. In this case also the difference between D2O and ACN is understandable because chem shift is concentration dependent.
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@NMRspectroscopy @nmr900 I don't know the structure - I am trying to determine it. This might indeed be a AX spin system... but I don't know how this information is going to help me
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@TSchubeis @nmr900 “Coupling” is really large. Even F-F coupling in diastereotopic CF2H group is around 250 Hz.
Could you show me the fragment of the molecule we’re talking about? I’m pretty sure now this is diastereotopic CH2 group. And you see smth like AB spin system.
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@NMRspectroscopy @nmr900 considering an integral ratio of close to 1:1 - this would mean that there are exactly two rotomers equally populated in the sample?
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@nmr900 @TSchubeis What is the reason for the shape of this signal? 🤔 I mean, it is negative at some points.
Maybe this large coupling is a consequence of some kind of rotamerism—for example, one induced by an amide group. In this case it is not “coupling” but doubling of your initial doublet.
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@NMRspectroscopy @nmr900 The spectrum I posted was recorded in D2O, I also have data in ACN - there the splitting is even bigger: 421 Hz. There should be Sulfur in the molecule, but no Nitrogen - at least according to MS/MS
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@nmr900 @TSchubeis Maybe… but I would go with changing the solvent. Rotamerism is strongly dependent on the solvent, so you might see a completely different picture.
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@canklin Interesting. This comes indeed from a three membered ring. Thanks!
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@uOttawaNMR @nmr900 Thanks for the tip. If the lock is weak the sweap is noisy? Here I don't think this was the case, sample was in pure dmso-d6 and lock signal found easily
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@TSchubeis Is your lock signal strong? u-of-o-nmr-facility.blogspot.com/search?q=Lock&… #nmrchat @nmr900

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@nmr900 @uOttawaNMR Interesting. It's a bruker spectrometer, standing on the ground floor but still there might be vibration... There is a lot going on in the hall. Is there an anti vibration mode on a standard bruker setup?
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@TSchubeis . @uOttawaNMR The Effect of Floor Vibrations on NMR Spectra u-of-o-nmr-facility.blogspot.com/2007/09/effect… #NMRchat #NMR 🧲

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@AlexGuseman In my experience they work very well with Fernbach flasks since they have a large bottom surface area... to get them off you need to gently pull the neck until they loose grip
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@klausenhauser Probably you can quite easily figure out if it's anion or cation... But which one? Q? Deae? S? Sp?
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@NMRspectroscopy Additionally by adding 10% D2O there is a new peak appearing at 8.4 ppm. It could be one of those that disappeared... Or something else? Any idea?
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@TSchubeis Those * are acidic protons. The only thing that comes to mind (OH, NH amine). After adding D2O they exchanged to D and disappeared.
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