
Takeo
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@TheWarLife @wealary_V2 Yeah I've already seen it, really sad actually. Even tho that a bigger nerf, I still think it's good vs burst, but instead of building it in 8/10 games vs burst, it's now 5/10. If it's really weak riot will buff it again, because they've said they wanna keep it viable for ranged
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@Takeo_67 @wealary_V2 Welp, seems like this isn't the change and they're just killing it on ranged champs gg
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but i dont get it this item was one of the coolest items in the game and they have jst turned it into some generic u get all stats item ??
pretty sure this kills it for zeri at least 1st item, 4th/5th/6th item this is a buff but dont think you will rush it anymore, will test it.
Spideraxe@Spideraxe30
Experimental Hexplate change: - Overdrive 50% attack speed changed to 30 AD
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@flayswrld @Spideraxe30 Yeah I don't get it either, maybe some randomness in there targeting as well? Weird mechanic either way
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@Takeo_67 @Spideraxe30 Seems kinda wild that they kill only 1 minion no?
It's only 5% bonus damage and 1 damage reduction

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@Spideraxe30 I thought it's getting adjustments? I'm still taking that
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@Spideraxe30 Finally, after 30 patches the item usable again (this is a revert from patch 25.04, where it was nerfed due to player frustration, while not even being OP xD)
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@Takeo_67 @wealary_V2 But I struggle to see the use case of it over Hexoptics rush now (assuming I can't get BF, cause in those cases I would always rather get stormrazor over either of them in any scenario). I've already been building it less ever since the rework.
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@TheWarLife @wealary_V2 Yeah ok that makes sense. If the build was only used by you to statcheck people I understand why it has less value to you or why everything else might be better now. I still think it's not THAT bad, but there are definitely fewer or almost no use cases for it (in your case)
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@ShadowsWrldz @Belphegor_LoL @Spideraxe30 I still don't get it. Briar is 100% unaffected by this, her Bleed ticks every 0.5 seconds, everything else does damage in one instance. Even if I would auto Q auto W auto in 0.01 sec (which isn't possible either way) I still would have full Cleaver stacks on the target
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@Takeo_67 @Belphegor_LoL @Spideraxe30 It does affect multiple hits in less than a second because the cooldown is per target, so multi hit abilities like kled Q or briar auto reset combo can now proc it again
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@TheWarLife @wealary_V2 How is it dead? You don't lose much DPS, and after Fiendhunter you'll reach the AS cap anyway when ulting where it's the exact same. You think losing 13 DPS every now and then for 10 min of the game makes this build unusable? (genuine question)
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@Takeo_67 @wealary_V2 I used to have Hexplate Fiendhunter as a setup I went when I knew I was gonna be outscaled no matter what. It's the strongest possible 1 item and 2 item spike you can get on Zeri, so it's very good for snowballing. Still ran it with LT, it was just a snowball setup. Dead now tho
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@Mirrai_LoL @Phantasm_EUW I mean there are not many users but definitely way more than before the rework, also it's so fucking fun on the champs it's good on (never loved playing Teemo or Varus this much)
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@TheWarLife @wealary_V2 In any other scenario this item is trash imo, since like you said, you are behind in critical strike chance which feels awful. If I don't need the HP, why should I ever build this (more so next patch)
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@TheWarLife @wealary_V2 The only reason I'm buying Hexplate right now is, if the enemy has 2 champs that can oneshot me without the 450 HP it gives, and there is no peel on my team. In that scenario idc about needing to snowball, since surviving an engage is most important (can't get kills if I'm dead)
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@TheWarLife @wealary_V2 Not unbuildable but definitely nerfed. You'll lose about 13 DPS during those 8 seconds after the changes. Only thing that's better is your W. The item is now even more niche
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@wealary_V2 It's not a buff in the late game either, it's the exact same as right now, since 50% AS already turns into 30 AD with the current 60% conversion. So the item doesn't change in normal crit setups (still a good late defensive item) but unbuildable first.
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@_divine_ascent @wealary_V2 It's not a buff for 5th/6th item, since 50% AS x 0.6 = 30 AD. In other words it's the exact same after you've reached the AS cap of 1.5, before that it's a nerf for your overall DPS, only W damage is up
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@wealary_V2 I guess riot tries to address the issue with varus/vayne top with this change, and make this item more for bruisers like renekton/(maybe)gnar/etc
Definitely should be buff for 5th/6th slot, maybe in pair with archangel and legend bloodline for survivability?
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@wealary_V2 Hexplate first with 5 points in Q at level 9:
Before:
245.31 DPS
After:
232.87 DPS
Till 1.5 AS it's a nerf (only W is better), after that it's the exact same (50% AS is 30 AD when converted). The closer you are reaching the cap the tinier the difference in damage becomes.
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@Takeo_67 @Belphegor_LoL @Spideraxe30 Does tho? It's per target not instance says here. And that was the big issue with it
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