🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar

@TamarTamarix

he/him not a cis. terfs are groomers.

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy I'm going to not bother. You're a delusional prick sitting safely far away using partial knowledge and a lot of ignorance to win an argument that has 0 affect on your life just to get a nice cozy feeling of "being right". Just like a fucking TERF.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix I'm going to be nice and invite you to reread my Tweet

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worms cited@christapeterso·6 Ara

Israel is vulnerable to occasional incursions but it does not and will not face an existential military threat! The actual existential threat is millions of people with an internationally recognized right to return to but an unwanted ethnicity

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy What is wrong with you!? I'm talking about MY life. You're treating this debate like a fucking game. You only pretend to care. It's just a fetish to you. Do you masturbate to pictures of dead palestinians? Does it make you feel nice and righteous?

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix Second, please remind me what the price of a deal with the devil traditionally is

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy @christapeterso It was never used by the people of the land. Only by foreigners like the greeks. Romans only used it after they crushed the jewish rebellion and exiled the jews. And philisitines "emerged" as migrates from the aegean, not as locals. They were no long gone by the roman time.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix @christapeterso Mm, yeah, except "Palestine" was a latinisation of the Greek name, "Palaistina," which had been used as the common name for the region for centuries and was itself a hellenisation of "Peleshet," and the Philistines emerged around the same time as the Israelites (1200 BCE)

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy My point is that british made contradictory promises to everyone, and so your claim that zionists are "british colonisers" because of such promise is bullshit. You really need to stop moving the goal posts.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix Also if we're talking British promises I like how you think non-Zionists have forgotten the McMahon–Hussein Correspondence, which predates the Balfour Declaration by over two years. If British promises matter then clearly it should be first come, first served

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy There is still a debate about the motives of the attack. They run from revenge, to response to the UN declaration, to robbery. It was one of many attacks following nov. 30. It is a fact that Palestinians rejected the UN plan, and that arabs invaded as soon as the brits left.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix And if we're going to do "who started the war" I'll just point out that contrary to the convenient modern Anglo-Israeli narrative, literally everyone including the Haganah and their enemies understood the Fajja bombing was retribution for the Lehi's murder of the Shubaki family

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy What!? We had to hide weapons from the brits. They were routinely raiding kibbutzim for "sliks". The relationship with the brits were complicated: We both fought the Nazis, & each other. That's like saying Israel is arming hamas because we gave weapons to the PA 30 years ago.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix Incidentally if we're going to relitigate the Palestine War, then that kind of proves my point about Israel being a British colony, given that the Haganah were armed and trained by the British through the pleasant fiction that the Haganah were actually the Notrim

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy What? The nazis won the elections on nov. 1932 and became the largest party in the reichstag. Are you stupid? Of course they were elected!

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix Except those happened *after* Hitler became chancellor, so you didn't answer my question. Was Hitler elected?

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

She doesn't know who won the german elections of 1933.

moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy

@TamarTamarix Second, given your extraordinary take that fascism is powered by the popularity it gains by exploiting people's suffering, I'd just like to know: was Hitler elected? What about Mussolini? Should have been easy enough if they appealed to the have-nots and not just the haves

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

She's never heard of religious zionism.

moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy

@TamarTamarix Second, following this discussion back to the beginning leads us to the inescapable logical conclusion that you include Kahanists and other Zionist extremists among "radical theocratic movements," which is interesting to me given that Zionism is not a fundamentally religious idea

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy Zionism is a wide movement. It includes secular, progressives like meretz, but also religious far right. They are literally called "RELIGIOUS ZIONISTS", for fuck's sake.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy Hitler was, famously, elected. Don't you know anything?

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy Making a deal with the devil to allow jews fleeing germany to keeps their possession isn't the same as backing the Nazis, who were never going to be "brought to their knees" by a boycott of the american jewish community.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix First of all, I don't think I need to hear about "supporting the Nazis in WW2" from a vocal advocate of the movement that negotiated the Haavara Agreement and broke the boycott that the Nazis had been terrified would bring them to their knees

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

She just called member of my family "cowards and rapists".

moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy

@TamarTamarix I don't remember saying you could call me "dear," but more to the point, it's nice to see we're back onto the typical Israeli sophistry about how you don't control what's happening in Gaza when you have an air and sea blockade and control all the crossings

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy Oh, and you will be dear and like it. I have 0 respect for your delusional ignorance, and privileged detached ideaology so be thankful I don't use actual insults.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy Not "all crossings" We don't control Rafah. And the blockade started in 2007. Remind me why?

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy @christapeterso And how many civilian death are members of Hamas responsible for? Israeli and Palestinian?

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix @christapeterso I also think of Ben Roberts-Smith. I also think of the murderers and thugs named in the Brereton report. I'm also aware that my granddad was an RAAF navigator in the Malayan Emergency, so despite being personally decent he's still jointly liable for 10,000 civilian deaths

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy @christapeterso Occupied? We left Gaza in 2005, dear.

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moby dickgirl (🦋 @eigenvectrix.myatproto.social)@epistemophagy·6 Ara

@TamarTamarix @christapeterso Being a soldier in an occupying force is fundamentally being a less regulated cop, and the maxim that "all cops are bastards" doesn't have an exception for family. You getting successfully baited into IOF apologetics just because people you love are in it is your affair

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy @christapeterso The UN comittee drafted 2 proposals: a single state for both nations (rejected by both us and the Palestinians) and a 2 states solution (we accept, they rejected). Brits leave. Arabs declare war, plan genocide, lose. And the rest, as they say, is history.

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🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️Tamar@TamarTamarix·6 Ara

@epistemophagy @christapeterso The first waves of immigration happened under Ottoman rule, not British. Zionists legally purchased lands to settle in... from its Palestinian owners. Brits took over, promised the land to the Jews, than took it back. Immigration continued regardless. 2/3

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