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The Muslim Theist
The Muslim Theist@TheMuslimTheist·
@TechUtopia1 @Simsimiyyah @SapienceOrg Nuzul is a contradiction if one takes it to be spatial. You are either above a thing, on par with it, or below it. Or, part of you is one and part of you is another. The answer of the brother implies that Allah has parts; part of Him stays on the throne, and part of him below.
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Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
May Allah bless you brother. These sectarians only know to do strawman. Brother from video never ever said BODY of Allah is moving from left side of the room to the right side of the room. He didnt said anything that alludes that Allah movement is same as human movement. I also pointed him out earlier the Allah seeing is not same as human eyesight. We affirm that Allah can See, same as with nuzul, its a movement. We never ever say its a human movement. These sectarians use them selves this tawil to say we said it, but they are the ones who are doing taweel in that way. Ironic.
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al-ʿUkbarī
al-ʿUkbarī@alUkbari·
1) al-Tabari never negated movement. We’ve been through this countless times. Both al-Dārimī and al-Kirmānī reported consensus in affirming it and they’re both earlier than al-Tabarī. 2) Just because Christians give a false analogy does not mean that everyone else who gives an analogy is automatically wrong. And the fact that you mention “God’s body” and “portions” is a strawman. Libyano never conceded to any of that. He’s not committed to the analogy overlapping in every aspect. 3) This narration isn’t established to Imām Mālik, but Imām Aḥmad according to his son ʿAbdallāh did make gestures with his hand when talking about Allāh lifting the heavens on His fingers in Kitāb al-Sunnah.
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Ibn ‘Abdullāh al-Hāshimī
My spine shuddered at this nightmare of an explanation. 1) He attributed movement to the Creator of movement. Imām al-Ṭabarī says movement is negated for Allāh by consensus of Ahl al-Qiblah, and he even uses this as a refutation of the Muʿtazilah when they claim the Qurʾān is created. Imām Junayd al-Baghdādī said that knowing Allāh creates the movements and stillness of creatures is fundamental to tawḥīd. 2) His analogy was disastrous and resulted in a contradiction within his own creed. It resembles the analogy of water, ice, and vapor used to convey the Trinity, which results in heresy: modalism. The very same issue occurs here. His analogy results in the “heresy” of taʾwīl. He used his intellect to negate the impossibility of entering creation and said the descent was merely his God’s body coming closer to creation. The second aspect he interpreted away is that only an attribute, or worse, a portion of Allāh moves downward. How can one critique the muʾawwil who says one of His actions, mercy, descends while holding such a position? 3) His moving downward to analogize the attributes of Allāh is even worse than when a man gestured with his own hands to discuss Allāh’s Hands. Imām Mālik ordered the amputation of this man’s hand. One can only wonder what this esteemed Imām of the Salaf would say regarding him.
Simsim al-Manṭiqī@Simsimiyyah

I don’t know how you people felt comfortable posting this… @SapienceOrg

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Muhammed
Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
You misquoted Tabari, this is why I asked you for reference... the reference you sent Tabari was mentioning smell, colour and he added movement in there, why did you decided to cut the whole sentence before the word movement, u cut the whole context? Lame of u.. Anyway context in Tabari was HUMAN actions and Human attributes. The brother in video never ever said that Allah has movement as humans do. So please stop misquoting ulama. Be ashamed of this. All these attributes again are going back to you guys going against sahih hadeeth. Example same with sight. Allah sight is not same as human sight. Vision of human has to have time and movement. The eyesight uses light which travels. We do not say Allah is seeing in the same way humans see. You guys are saying this when you strawman the arguments in this beautiful religion of Islam and aqida of salaf.
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Ibn ‘Abdullāh al-Hāshimī
Ibn ‘Abdullāh al-Hāshimī@hashimiyy_

Understanding Nuzūl, Majīʾ, and Ityān According to Imām Ibn Qutaybah, expressions such as descent and coming do not necessarily require physical movement or displacement in the Arabic language. He says: “Descent from us occurs with two meanings: One of them: transitioning from one place to another, like your descending from a mountain to the low ground, and from a roof to the house. The other meaning: your turning toward a thing with will and intention. Likewise are: al-hubūṭ (going down), al-irtqāʾ (rising/ascending), al-bulūgh (reaching), and al-maṣīr(arrival/destination), and the like of this in speech. An example of that is that someone asks you about the dwellings of a people among the Bedouins, while he does not intend to go to them. So you say to him: ‘When you come to such-and-such a mountain, then descend from it and take the right; and when you come to such-and-such a valley, then go down into it, then take the left; and when you come to such-and-such a land, then ascend a hill there until you overlook them.’ You do not intend, in anything you say, ‘Do it with your body.’ 
Rather, you only intend: ‘Do it with your intention and your aim.’ A speaker may say: 
‘You have reached the free men and you insult them; and you have come to the caliphs and you attack them; and you have come to knowledge and you turn away from it; and you have descended from…’ In none of this is the movement/transfer of a body intended. Rather, what is intended by it is aiming toward a thing by will, resolve, and intention.” Imām Ibn Jarīr al-Ṭabarī alludes to this as well: “And how is it not permissible, in your view, that the meaning of coming (al-majīʾ), going down (al-hubūṭ), and descending (al-nuzūl) be other than what you understood, namely, movement/transfer and departing, with respect to the Eternal Maker?” It is also reported from Ḥammād ibn Zayd that he said: “His descent (nuzūl) is His turning toward (iqbāl).” In conclusion, the Arabic language itself does not restrict words like nuzūl, majīʾ, and ityān to bodily movement or displacement, both of which are negated by Ahl al-Sunnah. Rather, these expressions may also be used for iqbāl (turning toward), qaṣd (intent), and the occurrence of an act in relation to its object. Allah ﷻ knows best.

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Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
You just misquoted Tabari to make your own context. What an L for you dude. Shame on you. What is Tabari actually arguing here the book you shared? This chapter is discussing Allah's speech (الكلام) and the question of whether the Qur'an is created. His argument structure is approximately: If Allah's attributes were treated exactly like created attributes, then one could attribute creaturely qualities to Allah, which everyone rejects, therefore the analogy is false. So he is using movement as one item in a list of created characteristics, not necessarily writing: “Ijmāʿ: Allah cannot descend” or “Allah has no nuzūl.” Those are larger theological discussions.
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James Kowalski
James Kowalski@JamesKowalski88·
@Farid_0v ONE. If person #3 in a 6-person oral chain lies or forgets, the entire chain after him is permanently corrupted. And because they were all dead 200 years later, Bukhari couldn't verify their memories he just wrote down rumors.
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James Kowalski
James Kowalski@JamesKowalski88·
This is the ultimate glass-house argument. They are demanding a standard of historical evidence for 1st-century Christianity that would completely vaporize their own religion if applied to 7th-century Islam.
Ali-O𝙣𝙚M𝙚𝙨𝙨𝙖𝙜𝙚☝︎@Kryptotajeer

Korra silences Christians by challenging the claim of eyewitnesses to the crucifixion! It’s misleading to say there were over 500 eyewitnesses when the ‘500 witnesses’ reference comes only from Paul, with no other historical source confirming it.

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Abdul Rahman (TAP)
Abdul Rahman (TAP)@abdul_now·
Did Ibn Taymiyyah “Fall into Kufr” for Believing Hell’s Punishment Will End? 👇🏻
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Muhammed
Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
@HarounKanj you promoting Hijab who is mujassima for u? Hhahaha, what a sucker you are.
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Haroun Kanj | Halwa Supremacist 🍮
Good point by Hijab. Why is it that wahhabis are willing to Takfir Muslims at the drop of a hat but can't be consistent when it comes to IT & IQ's view on hellfire?
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أبو أمين 80
أبو أمين 80@Najdat567·
صوت هز اشجاني ،حفظكم الله وأيدكم بنصره على اعداء الله والدين واعدائكم . من سوريا الحرة الى مأرب العزة أيدكم الله بنصره على الحوثي وأعوانه وعسى الله يجمعنا ونكون عونا لكم..
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Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
@Najdat567 Who are these people? Is this Yemen? Are they yemeni sunnes fighting shia huthees there?
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Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
@TheAnalysisMan ignore him, he is probably mentally unstable. May Allah cure him and guide him.
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Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
@farouk_naj @AbuHadhramaut u went complete retard on this post... May Allah disgrace u for sharing lies against scholars. Ya kadhab.
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Farouk
Farouk@farouk_naj·
@AbuHadhramaut I’m not reading all that, if you can’t put the two scans and make sense of it — you have bigger problems to deal with, because you’re delusional. Thanks for coming by. 👍🏻
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Farouk
Farouk@farouk_naj·
Still holding onto Wahabi views in 2026? With the amount of knowledge accessible today—and everything happening globally—it’s honestly surprising people haven’t re-examined those positions. May Allah ﷻ protect us from tajseem, tashbih and the takfir of innocent Muslims.
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Dr Asif Munaf
Dr Asif Munaf@DrAsifOfficial·
Unable to grasp the holistic beauty of Islam, Wahabis become autistically fixated on aqidah If Islam was just tawhid, surah ikhlas would have sufficed Yet the Quran provides the most complete system for civilisational excellence You are the best nation raised for mankind 3:110
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Muhammed
Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
@DrAsifOfficial another stupidious post.. How many rakat does salatul wuduu has?
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Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
@darthweit2 so I am wahabi because I tell you you cant see unseen? GROW up little boy.
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Muhammed
Muhammed@TechUtopia1·
@ahadsoab @ibmsulaymani Are you a moron? Your source no where mentiones Women or babies. Why are you a filthy lier? Do you want to leave this world as a dirty filthy lier?
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Ibrāhīm Ibn Maḥmūd
Ibrāhīm Ibn Maḥmūd@ibmsulaymani·
Daniel Haqiqatjou describes the alleged ‘mass killing’ the Wahhābīs carried out in al-Ṭāʾif in 1803, slaughtering people praying in mosques, studying the Qurʾān, and even babies being breastfed by their mothers. He even plays sounds effects of babies crying to emotionally manipulate the listener. ❌ There’s just one problem: This is all fake news. None of this ever happened. Aḥmad Zaynī Daḥlān was a well known a liar and wasn’t even alive when ʿUthmān al-Muḍāyifī took al-Ṭāʾif.
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