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ToryGotTen... HAAAAA
@The1ANDtheTwo
Google it baby, go head baby *LL voice* Not easily angered but easily petty. 🤷🏾♀️♉️
Out and About. Katılım Ağustos 2022
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@AriesGroove81 @Emaza19 @Destiny84167190 I didn't say she should be held aaccountable for ANYTHING that people say. I said people do say that phrase literally. It's been a thing since before Bey was even born and it'll be a thing after she's gone.
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@The1ANDtheTwo @Emaza19 @Destiny84167190 And why should Beyoncé be held accountable for yalls stupidity?
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I remember when people were mad about this. They said their ancestors were farmers and not kings😂😂😂😂
John A@FashionCowboy
This is why I respect Beyoncé her display of Africa was not racist or anti black she displayed the richness and why black is king unlike some people…
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@AriesGroove81 @Emaza19 @Destiny84167190 Mane gone. A LOT of "us" DO stupidly mean that shit literally. Stop playin for twitter. You can search that shit right now and see folks that still say it. That's why these goofy crackas use that "We wuz kangs" shit.
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@Emaza19 @Destiny84167190 And again, do you seriously think those words were to be taken literally rather than just mean “we come from such a culturally rich/diverse land with histories that predate the horror than put us all together under the category of slaves”? That’s on you my friend
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Stupidity is arguing that a LOST court case was won.
It wasnt.
She was a colonizing poser and so are you.
🇵🇪🇺🇸Jaime Pretell, Esq ΑΨΛ🇺🇦🇮🇱@JPretellEsq
@The1ANDtheTwo @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola Nice try. One, I am an attorney and you clearly are not. And you failed to understand what was litigated. But keep showing your stupidity.
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@The1ANDtheTwo @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola Nice try. One, I am an attorney and you clearly are not. And you failed to understand what was litigated. But keep showing your stupidity.
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@JPretellEsq @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola If you lose in court did you win?
Did you prove your case enough for someone to believe you?
Was your point vindicated with substantial evidence?
Are ALL of these answers no?
And THATS WHY HER GOOFY ASS LOST AND THATS WHY YOU'RE NOT A LAWYER. 😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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@The1ANDtheTwo @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola No, you are just a complete idiot that does not understand court proceedings, court decisions or the law.
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@JPretellEsq @The1ANDtheTwo @queenie4rmnola Really, a newspaper clip is your reference. The media has never been reliable for accurate accounts for anything. You're laughable. Have the day you deserve, racist.
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@JPretellEsq @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola You literally cannot prove it was hers, and neither could she. Why? Because it WASNT.
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Not my fault you are too stupid to understand that the court determined Boop Oop a Doop was no unique enough. Not that Helen Kane didn't come up with it or that anyone did it before or that Betty Boop didn't use her EXACT PHRASE you utter moron. It was hers, just deemed not copyrightable. It was a cartoon of her. Much like cartoons of Trump exist but he can't copyright them.


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@JPretellEsq @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola What EXACTLY does your ancestry have to do with you being a dumbass....
Right.
What was that about you not being a fucktardo?
Newsflash, you are; and worse.
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@The1ANDtheTwo @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola And what is my Kind? A Mixed creole of multiple ancestries? A NON fucktardo unlike you?
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@JPretellEsq @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola No it wasnt which is why she LOST.
Not being unique to HER enough to get a copyright means it was NOT HERS.
I know there's a literacy crisis but DAMN!
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@The1ANDtheTwo @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola Wrong. It was actually statedthat it WAS her act. But it was not unique enough to copyright.
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@JPretellEsq @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola So it wasnt unique enough to prove it was her act.... why? BECAUSE IT WASNT.
I dont expect much from your kind though. Carry on.
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@The1ANDtheTwo @jpaschall1 @queenie4rmnola No the court said her act wasn’t unique enough. Get a clues
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@jpaschall1 @JPretellEsq @queenie4rmnola Exactly. "Kane was the real thing" turned into the COURT SAID she wasnt.
Simple as fuck. 🤣
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@JPretellEsq @queenie4rmnola A bunch of word salad that ended in Kane winning or losing?
One word answer.... Oh. Right.
Have a nice day bookie.
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The writers you are talking about were the ones being sued by Helen Kane for 250000 dollars. Kane claimed they stole her act her voice her look and her boop-oop-a-doop style for Betty Boop. That is the lawsuit Kane v Fleischer Studios decided May 4 1934.
The defense did not say Betty Boop was based on Baby Esther. They called Lou Walton as a witness. He testified that Esther did childlike scat syllables like oo-oo-oo boo-boo-boo and wha-da-da dropped into jazz numbers as a juvenile novelty act. They used that evidence for one reason only. It was to prove Kane could not claim the broad baby-scat style was unique to her. That is standard legal strategy. Prior art kills an originality claim.
That testimony is not the creators admitting they modeled Betty Boop on Esther. There are zero Fleischer studio memos zero animator notes zero production records and zero statements from Grim Natwick or Max Fleischer that ever placed Esther Jones in the creative chain. Natwick has always said he based Bettys flapper look spit curls garter short dress and proportions directly on Helen Kanes publicity photos. The voice actresses Margie Hines and Mae Questel did straight Kane impressions. Bettys signature line is Kanes exact boop-oop-a-doop not Esthers child syllables.
The court never ruled Esther inspired Betty Boop. It never said Kane copied Esther. It never assigned the style to Esther. McGoldrick simply ruled that Kane failed to prove the boop-oop-a-doop interpolations and baby style were original to her. That is it. A narrow failure of proof holding.
You keep shifting the goalposts. First it was the court said Esther was the inspiration. Now it is the writers said it. Neither is true. The defense used Esther as an exhibit against Kane. The actual creators and studio record never did. That is not history. It is turning a 1934 litigation tactic into internet mythology.
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@CocoMango1979 @duffthebrand They try to, but word on the street is she's mean as hell... so people just leave her alone.
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@duffthebrand I didn't Toni doesn't I saiid people in general don't give her credit like other big divas of her era
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She birthed Toni Braxton but she doesn't get any credit
Hip-Hop Supreme 📻🪬@laurynslounge
What's your unpopular opinion about Anita Baker?
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@JPretellEsq @queenie4rmnola The court didnt say it, the WRITERS did. Maybe you missed that part.
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You have the causation exactly backwards. Kane did not lose because Esther was the inspiration. Kane lost because she could not prove her style was unique to her and could not prove Fleischer took it from her specifically. Those are two completely different rulings, and the actual court record bears that out.
The case is Kane v. Fleischer Studios, Inc. et al., decided by Justice Edward J. McGoldrick of the New York Supreme Court on May 4, 1934. Kane sued for two hundred fifty thousand dollars alleging unfair competition and wrongful appropriation of her personality, voice, and characteristic style. The court denied her claim. Here is what the court actually said, and what it did not say.
McGoldrick ruled that Kane failed to establish that the boop-oop-a-doop interpolations and baby style of singing were original with her. He noted that the evidence showed the baby style of singing had been used by other performers, including a black child singer known as Baby Esther, before Kane adopted it. That is the entire Esther reference in the ruling. It is an evidentiary point about prior use of a generalized style, not a finding that Esther was the inspiration for Betty Boop. The court never said Esther inspired Betty Boop. The court never said Fleischer modeled Betty Boop on Esther. The court never said Kane copied Esther. The court said Kane could not prove the style belonged to her alone, which is a much narrower holding.
What Esther actually did is important here because it is nothing like what Kane did or what Betty Boop became. Esther Jones was a child singer, billed as Baby Esther, performing in cabaret and vaudeville settings in the late 1920s. Her act was a juvenile jazz novelty built around scat interpolations using nonsense child syllables such as oo-oo-oo, wha-da-da, and similar vocal toy sounds dropped into standard jazz numbers. That style of childlike scat was a known novelty register in the period and was used by several black and white child performers. Esther performed it as a small child, which was the whole novelty of her act, and the evidence in the case described her interpolations in those general terms, not as the boop-oop-a-doop phrase and not as a flapper routine.
Kane’s act was a completely different package. Kane was an adult performer doing a flirtatious flapper persona built around a squeaky upper-register baby voice, coy facial mannerisms, hip and shoulder movement, and her signature interpolation boop-oop-a-doop, which she introduced in the 1928 Broadway show Good Boy in the song I Wanna Be Loved By You. The signature was not a generic child syllable. It was a specific four-beat phrase delivered with adult flapper styling and sexual suggestion, which is exactly what made it a marketable trademark sound for Kane. Esther’s oo-oo-oo child scat and Kane’s boop-oop-a-doop flapper hook are not the same performance element, and the court did not treat them as the same. The court only said both fell within a broader prior tradition of baby-style vocalizing, which is why Kane could not claim exclusive ownership of the category.
Betty Boop tracks Kane, not Esther, on every visible element. Betty is drawn as an adult flapper, not a child. Her body styling, garter, short dress, spit curls, and exaggerated head-to-body ratio mirror Kane’s stage look and Paramount publicity stills. Her voice, performed by Margie Hines, Mae Questel, and others, is a direct Kane impression in pitch, phrasing, and delivery. Her signature line is boop-oop-a-doop, Kane’s exact phrase, not Esther’s oo-oo-oo. Her mannerisms, the coy shoulder turn, the eyelash flutter, the hip swing, the singing-into-the-microphone posture, are Kane stage business, not child-cabaret business. None of these elements come from Esther’s documented act. They come from Kane’s documented act.
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Ov Hoe delusion....
Drizzy Valentino 🦉@drizzyvalentino
Damn so he’s the greatest actor and rapper of all time 🐐
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@2handedbanana @queenie4rmnola Google IS free so go research Helen Kane's lawsuit and why she lost.
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@queenie4rmnola No, she wasn’t. She was developed as white.
Google is free.
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@JPretellEsq @queenie4rmnola Meanwhile when Kane sued she lost BECAUSE Esther was the inspiration.
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@queenie4rmnola Only Betty Boop didn’t dress like that. And she didn’t say ooo-ooo-ooo like Esther did. This was debunked. Kane was the real thing.
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@relientkenny @queenie4rmnola @lettabrown The same universe they think Jesus was white in....
They have main character syndrome BAD to be a global damn minority.
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@queenie4rmnola @lettabrown cause it what universe did they think betty was WHITE???!
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