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A Hindutvavadi from Kerala

Bharat Katılım Eylül 2020
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@Browhat011 @MahaRathii It's a guess. Most people prefer to cook buffalo. And when someone else makes it you can't confirm what it is just by looking.
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Browhat@Browhat011·
@TheMK90 @MahaRathii Pinne endhu kanditu anu avru vtl vekkuna food ayadh kond adhu buffalo ayrnkum enn paranje?? Apo aa function use cheydhadhu cow ano..what kind of logic is that?
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MAHARATHI@MahaRathii·
Shiyas Kareem a malayalam TV celebrity forcing a Hindu woman to eat BEEF.🚨🚨 He shouted at her. Eat.. Eat… Anu Eat.. When she refused, he turned aggressive. Asked if she was on a diet or a BJP follower. This is what #KeralaStory shows us. Just think. If it were the opposite, and that Hindu girl forced him to eat pork, what would the situation be now?
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@Browhat011 @MahaRathii Although I won't say people are forced to buy. Whatever may be the reason there is a demand.
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@Browhat011 @MahaRathii I'm also from Kerala but where did I lie anywhere here? You don't even have a disagreement with me, you agreed it's available in the market. Cow meat is available in the market so there is obviously some demand for it. This is not rocket science.
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@TrumannNeumann I'm not surprised. All veg Sadhya is a modern trend.
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@Browhat011 @MahaRathii Wrong. It's predominantly buffalo meat, that's what most Malayalis prefer. But cow meat demand is still there, that's why it's being sold.
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@pashyaka @GloryGloryTTSVG Pre British Kerala also had a certain Advaita dominance but only among ruling elite, which is why the major temples have that Advaita influence. Even compromising on Shaktism at the Devi temples.
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त्र्यम्बक Triophthalmos शक्ति worshipper
The core Vaishnava Region around Braj, Mathura has already been besieged by Mullahs, the Mathura Temple too - Stop applying such convoluted "neurotic" logic and accusing us of lacking common sense; as a Maithil, we just adhere to a Tantravaidika understanding that is orthodox.
rahula@pashyaka

often see this handle posting grandiose takes. but all the supposedly "shakta" regions even mithila are just 10-15 years from islamic takeover. the people from these places are also quite over complicated and inwardly driven. wonder if there is some sort of conditioning that

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@Browhat011 @MahaRathii If it's cooked at home, it's very likely to be buffalo meat and not cow
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Browhat@Browhat011·
@MahaRathii This is that girl..u can check her instagram story ..she is serving beef after she cooked..🤡.now think how dumb u guys are😂..and anu and sheeyas are close frnds
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@pashyaka @GloryGloryTTSVG Today we have all shades of Hindus expressing m sympathy. It's how you earn status in Kerala currently. Congress indulges in that well enough. So much so that M groups, including ones that called for Sharia state, have allied with Congress for the recent elections
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@pashyaka @GloryGloryTTSVG As far as Kerala is concerned, blaming this situation on Devi Bhakts is just hilarious. Communist govt were the ones to bring animal sacrifice ban in Kerala, before that Travancore kingdom did under British.
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@pArAsharyAyaNa This narration of a King being possessed and scribes relaying it to the King after he regains consciousness, I've read this happen to Genghis Khan before.
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@TheEmissaryCo Wait, which book is this exactly? It sounds like you're writing it?
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The Emissary@TheEmissaryCo·
@TheMK90 will comment on this in next post on the book i do as it's interesting. But yes, this is normal internal sectarian dynamics
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The Emissary@TheEmissaryCo·
The dividing of Hinduism is most clearly shown in the 'Hookswinging Controversies.' In Tamil Nadu, there was a festival where Hindus used to pierce hooks through their backs & swing with them to appease their local goddess, Mariyammal. Missionaries were horrified by this practice, in particular being disturbed by the parallels to Jesus's crucifixion in the notion of inducing pain for sacrifice. It was also done on Sundays, which they saw was a profound profaning of 'the Lord's Day.' They thereupon conjured a set of contradictory claims to stop the practice: 1. This was a local Dravidian practice so it was non-Hindu and non-religious 2. Brahmins tricked lower castes to conduct this cruel practice to dominate and control them This was despite the fact that people of various castes participated willingly (they saw it as a method of devotion to Mariyammal), that the priests officiating it were non-Brahmin, and that local Brahmins themselves would join in on the celebrations nonetheless. To stop this practice yet stay within the ambit of 'non-religious interference' urged by the Raj, missionaries labeled it as non-Hindu and instead a socio-cultural exercise of cruelty by Brahmins on lower castes. When the festival was stopped by the British, local areas reported cattle dying & crops failing resulting in economic calamity.
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After the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857, Queen Victoria decreed a pact of 'non-interference' where the British would desist from interfering in Indian religious & social affairs. However this has an unintended side effect - a massive one in fact: British authorities now needed to classify what exactly was Indian religion, custom, & tradition. This was a process of calcification & (mis)categorization. Many of those who assisted them were urbane or Anglophilic Brahmins who declared practices as non-Hindu/non-orthodox even though more observant or rural Brahmins would engage in them all the same. That is not to mention the hamfisted lines drawn in front of other Hindu communities whose customs fell beyond the pale of what the interlocutors deemed as 'Hindu.' For the British, this was a boon. This complemented their burgeoning ethno-caste anthropological project that served as the foundation of a legal code which treated castes & communities differently in manners frequently based off their fealty to the Empire. So it is here where we see a simultaneous botched deconstruction of Hinduism and Frankenstein-esque rearrangement of a new body of Indian religion for the purposes of the Raj.

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The Emissary@TheEmissaryCo·
British intervention in Indian religious life had an ironic appendage: a class of Brahmins who would lay the foundations for anti-Brahmin sentiments across India. For example, in the 'Hookswinging Controversies' quoted, the British collaborated with a section of Brahmins who had a dim view of the entire spectacle & wanted it abolished as well. The thing was, this collaborating group was a minority, many Brahmins participated in the ritual & were at the forefront of a petition to keep it alive. The unintended effect of the collaboration was ammunition for missionaries & the cleaving of Hinduism. Collaborators buttressed divisive arguments claiming that hookswinging was not 'Brahmanic' or 'Sanskritic,' thereby creating categories unmoored in local Indian theology. This class of Brahmins helped entrench this fantasy in Indology and with it, anti-Brahmin sentiment was spread framing Brahmins as the masters of Brahminism, a faith designed to fool all others.
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The dividing of Hinduism is most clearly shown in the 'Hookswinging Controversies.' In Tamil Nadu, there was a festival where Hindus used to pierce hooks through their backs & swing with them to appease their local goddess, Mariyammal. Missionaries were horrified by this practice, in particular being disturbed by the parallels to Jesus's crucifixion in the notion of inducing pain for sacrifice. It was also done on Sundays, which they saw was a profound profaning of 'the Lord's Day.' They thereupon conjured a set of contradictory claims to stop the practice: 1. This was a local Dravidian practice so it was non-Hindu and non-religious 2. Brahmins tricked lower castes to conduct this cruel practice to dominate and control them This was despite the fact that people of various castes participated willingly (they saw it as a method of devotion to Mariyammal), that the priests officiating it were non-Brahmin, and that local Brahmins themselves would join in on the celebrations nonetheless. To stop this practice yet stay within the ambit of 'non-religious interference' urged by the Raj, missionaries labeled it as non-Hindu and instead a socio-cultural exercise of cruelty by Brahmins on lower castes. When the festival was stopped by the British, local areas reported cattle dying & crops failing resulting in economic calamity.

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@Ishodas_Thomman Yes, which confirms that there indeed was a Hindu identity
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Ishodas Thomman - തൊമ്മൻ
The Hindu identity we see today is actually pretty modern. Historically the Temples of Kerala were not concerned about non-Hindus entering, instead they were concerned about untouchables (തീണ്ടൽ ജാതിക്കാർ) entering, which includes more than half of present day Kerala Hindus.
Kanakkan Madambi, Putthan Veettil@KanakkanMadambi

Casteism: no one can beat Malayali Savarna Hindu on Casteism! Christians don't stop you from entering church. Muslims don't stop you from entering mosque. Hindus STOP you from entering temples. Yes, that's the Savarna Hindu of Progressive Kerala.

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@Siradhvaja @historiakayasth I'm not denying the taboo. But that if this is true, then you can't say all Hindus avoided beef
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@TheMK90 @historiakayasth Technically some authorities permitted the consumption of beef by scavenging dead cows (which is also where leather is allowed to be sourced from traditionally), but this is also precisely what added to their stigmatization by other castes.
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@historiakayasth There's an accusation that the leather making communities consumed beef as they had to deal with fallen cattle. I don't know if it's true.
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historiakayasthas@historiakayasth·
Beef eating in the south and eastern India is a recent phenomenon. In fact, even Buddhists had taboo against beef, Sri Lankan Buddhists and Srilankan Tamil Hindus both united on this point despite hating each other.
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@Raktarasikah @Siradhvaja As for courts, I'm not sure what kind of problem would require for courts to deal with religious philosophy. If it's happening, it's such a waste of time. It's best to keep the courts out of it.
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@Raktarasikah @Siradhvaja If for so many years my ancestors could preserve the traditions without philosophy, why can't it continue that way? Looking at what happened in Kerala, I believe there never was a collective acceptance of philosophy. Wherever that happened it modern times, it led to destruction.
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