Mucklebones

@synthwavepen @PaulTassi Oh fuck off with this take Destiny got diluted down to participation trophy gear and hand out exotics just to appease people who complained they couldn't be bothered to work to do a nightfall Then they come after raids and endgame like they were entitled to those accolades.

@PaulTassi I know this isn’t popular but the streamers (not you) who are today crying but pushed for years to turn D2 into an endless 8 hour a day slogfest with impossible raids and sweaty endgame are partially to blame for this

NEW VIDEO: Not gonna mince words here, it's bad, bad. Here's where we are after the end of Destiny 2, and what's likely to happen with Bungie and its games going forward, given what we know. youtube.com/watch?v=GUFde0…

@justenholstein @PaulTassi In hindsight it seems they just told him to turn the lights off after everyone left. Sounds like this was a decision made a while ago, he wasn't given any power to change anything.

@PaulTassi Need to have a discussion about Tyson Green. wtf has that dude done? Most insular game director I’ve ever seen. Never said a word to the community did he?

@PaulTassi Competent leadership

how does Warframe do it

@Boomfizzle79 @PaulTassi Oh it can and will be worse There is still a good chunk of people thinking D3 is a foregone conclusion. Once those people break, they will be way more angry because they hyped themselves up for weeks

@TheMucklebones @PaulTassi I mean, it can't be any worse than it is right now. People already want Marathon to die in a fire because they think that's the reason Destiny died, even though it's way more complex than that, and already no one is really play D2. This is rock bottom next to a complete shutdown

FYI Bungie will not announce anything at State of Play outside of doing Marathon season 2 promo stuff

@PaulTassi Sure. But there will not be any influx of players with this news. This outcome will only turn players away. In no way does the abandonment of Destiny encourage current or former players to pick up Marathon. Especially with no sign that Destiny will continue at all

The reality is that now, more than ever, people should want Marathon to win. If it can thrive, it can expand in interesting ways, it can give Bungie runway and leeway with Sony for future projects. It's all upside if you want more Bungie games or even more Destiny. Marathon dying from here doesn't help anyone. Though that does not mean I'm going to just cheerlead if things don't turn around

@WangChangBackup @PaulTassi Maybe, but I doubt the announcement of a D3 would come in a random TWID during the lowest time in Destiny ever. Gotta think if it was going to happen Sony would find a much bigger platform to tease it

@PaulTassi If there was even a plan to GET to a Destiny 3 I have to imagine it would have been part of this announcement. "Destiny 2 is going into maintenance while we work on Destiny 3" would be a message of hope, probably reinvigorate the community! No reason to bum everyone out instead.

I cannot confirm the existence of Destiny 3 in production/incubation, but A) I would not bank on that, 2) it may be years until we know anything definite and 3) no it is certainly not at the PS State of Play. Expectations in check here

@PaulTassi I see no reality in which continuing to invest heavily in Marathon is more beneficial than pivoting back to such an established and proven IP like Destiny Sunk cost fallacy has never felt so real

Not saying it's impossible, but if there was ever a time to announce Destiny 3, even years away, it was now

@BigBlack_Bougie @PaulTassi I'm not sorry. Fuck Marathon forever

@PaulTassi I’m sorry but. Fuck. Marathon.

the fury that's about to come down on Marathon, which has been underperforming Destiny 2 in its worst content draught in history

@DadLovesGames @PaulTassi Disagree Enjoying it a ton

@PaulTassi Boy this doesn’t feel great. The art style is super cool and some quality is there but I don’t see the fun at all. The game just feels like it has no soul, like here’s an extraction shooter just to get our name in the space.

killed two people in a Rook run I have won Marathon

@PaulTassi It is under main as well, if you already had steam up refresh it

you have to literally search "server slam" by the way, it's not the main game page

@PaulTassi At this point, you just have to accept that some people are just going to continue to move the goalposts I'm convinced there will be no result that will sway that crowd

The "but ARC Raiders has been out for months" thing doesn't really track if you can...very obviously see it has been high on this list *for* all those months

@pokeplug__ @PaulTassi Why are some people seemingly obsessed with tracking things they claim to despise That cannot be healthy

@PaulTassi This game will flop. Slower than Highguard, but it will flop.

On Marathon Eve, it's at #5 for Steam Revenue, behind RE9, CS2, ARC and Warframe (that game must be studied). Probably as good as you'd imagine before the server slam actually starts. Ideal would be maintaining this or around this the whole test. Above ARC would be a story

most closely aligned with the faction you cannot join that is actively trying to kill me

@PaulTassi D2 survived way longer than it was supposed to, and a year past the end of the initial saga The engine, the loot, the narrative, it all needs a refresh I love Destiny, but D2 needs to go into maintenance mode so they can focus on the next steps. They can't keep dragging this on

When the dust settles, I think The Portal will be the culprit for essentially this entire calamity, outside of the natural post-TFS dropoff, which was expected - Entire modifier/power delta system unfun - Power grind was awful and had to be severely nerfed before it was effectively killed, but not before it turned so many people off from the new era of the game during the first months - Tier 5 loot is now broken as it's power creep incarnate and the only tier to chase, but now has to be doubled down on through RAD expansion - The Portal itself is now close to dead between seasonal expansion farming and the Vanguard Ops playlist proving it shouldn't have even been there in the first place But The Portal is too merged into the core DNA of Destiny to extract now, because all these systems were built around it. This is why there have to be "big updates" that include spreading Tier loot to places it always should have been. Now we have messes like the ability to infuse crafted adept variants with tier 5 type perks and enhancements and oh god what's happening. I thought one of the big reasons for such a lengthy delay (June!) would be to start to reshape this core into something else. Instead, it's just creep tumoring out the system further, where it still won't be compelling. Layer than on top of probably 30% of the amount of actual new content the game needs in a given year, and man, things are going to get real dark real fast

@MikeHerndonSk1 "We dont want to do anything too out there. How about we remove the tacky, dated flames and update the color palette to closer to our Oiler roots?" Suddenly, people are acting like this is some sort of atrocity or something, I'm kind of confused.

The Titans logo has been around for almost 27 years now and I have NEVER heard it described as “iconic” or “top-5” until reports about the rebrand started. Reality is some people don’t like change and love to shit on anything new. Zero doubt in my mind this will be an upgrade.

@PaulTassi Absolutely nothing about the game makes me feel like there is overlap with his audience. An odd decision for sure

The sentient peanut's chat does not appear to be on board with Marathon. A lot of complaining about the art style, UI A few saying it looks fun periodically, a lot of Apex Legends comparisons twitch.tv/theburntpeanut

I have said enough positive and negative things about Marathon where I'm gonna get shit on no matter what happens

@LostS0ul91 @PaulTassi I don't really care, but I am curious what these people are going to do if it *doesn't* fail Probably move on to some other hate-post target, but still, weird mindset to have

Jesus, it really was Concord 2. I’m being literal, not trying to be insensitive, but this is just wild. What are the expectations for games like these where you have to kill them and disband a studio within two weeks of launch?

@PaulTassi I find it funny that watching Myelin's vid and Aztecross's reaction, China testers specifically criticized the prevalence of PvE. Stating that there was too much focus on it and not enough on PvP specifically Highlights the difference in market mindsets

"We’re definitely not making a game that has only a PVE mode" is not "We’re definitely not making a game that has an only PVE mode" Anyway, if it ever existed, it would be years