@fwghosts_ I mean lets not pretend the blue are great in cell max. Yeah obviously they can dodge but thats the issue with them. If they dont they die. And yes they can barely survive post super but they are just not the safest in there.
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The Randomizer
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We are once again forgetting that the hardest fight is still cell max and judging off of ONE newer stage. I think there are better options, but being better than most in all fights>being better than the blues in one fight that isn’t even the hardest fight
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7. they do not belong in the top 5 anymore, especially if the fight is long. not because they’re bad but because there are way better options
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@Nicers62 @DaTruthDT I wouldn’t say a high chance to dodge character is dodging based, he is more of a mixed def character. And yeah he doesn’t have a guaranteed add, but if he hits the great chance super it will still help proc the hipo add.
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@TheRandomizer4 @DaTruthDT He doesn’t have guarenteed additionals in his kit and is a dodging-based character
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@DragonP19083986 I mean only if that character is completely dependent upon their revive, like a revive transformation or someone who gets majority stats from their revive. However if it’s a character that just needs a revive than this guy likely sky rockets in value
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Once we get a new better revive, will this unit just fall off a cliff??????
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@CptButcher @whoknowsbro1221 I agree, he gets me killed very often and doesn’t really add much to the team. And yeah he gives 60% def but for it to be truly effective he has to be in slot 1 where he has a 20% chance to die
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@whoknowsbro1221 The only reasons i use blueku is because he gives 60% def to allies. Other than that i don’t se what all the hype’s about
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Gomah is barely top 10 for me lmao, but the blues unfortunately arent seeing much use (atleast for me) because of goku's super class restrictions. They are just slightly worse tag MV.
"But there are way better options" be fr what "way better options" have you got for blueku?
Ainty@buumillennium
7. they do not belong in the top 5 anymore, especially if the fight is long. not because they’re bad but because there are way better options
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@LtThunder2 @whoknowsbro1221 Id say they are a completely worse tag mv. Tag mv does way more damage, tanks way better, dodges better and supports wayyyy better. Its really not a close comparison.
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@whoknowsbro1221 I can't really say they're a slightly worse tag mv since the conditions for both are fairly diff
Mv needs a mbs ally on roto to get Goku early enough in the fight to matter which is an issue off of their own team, tho Goku side of blues damage sucks compared to mv
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@whoknowsbro1221 Tag mv, tag 4s, daima 4ku, kai goku, tag ui, int future gohan, int ui, buu duo and gomah himself.
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@facesofall @DB_FusionCore @DaTruthDT Truth will put 30 dodge on a character who dd tanks most attacks in the game, has no crit and heavily relies on stacking and will still put a dodge build on them. I was honestly surprised by his build for nappa+vegeta cause it was very out of character
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@facesofall @DB_FusionCore @DaTruthDT I can’t tell who’s side you are on lol. But if you are against my statement which I presume you are, it’d be helpful to know that I am a big supporter of dodge and put it on most units. I simply feel that truth takes it to a level that is absurd.
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@DaTruthDT For reference datruth, your build with a lvl 10 instead of a dodge equip would have an extra 2.5 mil def from 7 stacks and would be able to tank a 15 mil type neutral super for 500k. Without extra stacks he is dying in that same situation.
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@DaTruthDT Gave the stacking character no additional and less raw stats?
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@DKD1607 @DaTruthDT With 7 stacks he has 2.5 million more def, that is a significant amount more and is easily saving you in certain scenarios. I would argue the amount of times an extra 350-1050k def will save you is higher than the amount of times a 30 dodge build gives you.
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@DKD1607 @DaTruthDT I would not agree, datruths raditz if he threw on a lvl 10 def in the bronze would be around 4.2 mil def with 7 stacks in and could tank up to 5 million damage normals for dd. Thats not quite dodge or die. And if he is getting one shot im sorry a 30 dodge build aint doing much.
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@DaTruthDT And for reference a stack on datruths build if he swapped the bronze for a lvl 10 def gives him 350k more def. With 70% dmg reduction that translates to 1.2 million damage in extra tank ability.
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@DKD1607 @DaTruthDT If we are just worried about supers im willing to trust his built in high chance and if we are talking about normals id rather shave off 300k damage then just maybe dodge or take tons of damage. And if hes getting one shot by normals than both are are fairly useless but still add
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@DKD1607 @DaTruthDT Id honestly say a stack. An extra stack would shave off 250-350k damage permanently. Whereas a 30 dodge build gives you just 30% chance to dodge. 1/2
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@DB_FusionCore @facesofall @DaTruthDT He gets 270k DEF per stack and can do 3 per turn with a hipo build. So each turn if you hit all your stacks you would have 812k extra def. That quite literally can take you from death to dd. And after just 7 stacks he can live a type neutral 10 mil super. Id say thats very good.
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@facesofall @DaTruthDT Brother 50% dodge was good in 2021 not now🙏😭 70% dr is good against normals but is not enough for supers, especially without guard, and a potential 20% stack ain't gonna do shit on a banner unit just think a little next time
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@BronyxW @DaTruthDT True but his DEF gets up to around 2 mil without stacks so each stack gives him about 400k def so they are very effective.
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@DaTruthDT ""Stacking unit with full dodge for TEQ Raditz????""
People, TEQ Raditz only stacks 20% with each super 😭😭😭 and you will mainly float him, like i feel dodge will help him moreee
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@TTD_E I see that makes sense, I guess as a f2p I value the most efficient in terms of stamina cost since it’s hard to spend lots of stones on LL. I don’t use good leaders but rather use whole teams that need to LL as to not waste a spot on the team. But that makes a lot of sense.
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@TheRandomizer4 too slow to do. It's pointless for anyone that just want to fast farm links. 38-7 is a 20/30 second fight. It cost a lot of stamina? Yes. But it will always be the fastest way right now for link lvling. RN i'm farming 38-7 with Tao as lead just to go in launch active - repeat.
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Nessuno dei nuovi stage storia è buono per link levellare. Si rimane su 38-7 single enemy e se volete perdere tempo 34-8 con più nemici.
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