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VanderBall
@TheVanderBall
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Katılım Ağustos 2011
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@robin_moi The whole point of dodging is you only need for 1 of the procs to succeed to NOT DIE, and you often need your unit to dodge multiple times. You just aren’t told whether your dodge succeeded because of the passive or hipo. I don’t feel like explaining anymore.
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Dokkan players, here’s an explanation as to why dodge builds on already dodging characters actually makes a much more impactful difference than you realize:
1-((1-built in% chance) x (1-hidden potential% chance))
For example if a unit has 70% dodge chance in their passive and you give them a build with 30 dodge the cumulative probability would be
1-((1-0.7) x (1-0.3))=0.79
An increase of only 9% may look like just a small bump, but when not dodging means dying, 9 more dodges in every 100 attempts is pretty meaningful. The biggest thing that having higher odds does for you is it lowers the standard deviation that occurs over a large amount of attempts. You need to remember that even RNG has RNG, and that not everyone will be as lucky/unlucky as you when it comes to dodging. Basically when the probability of success is low, the odds that you could be an outlier and get especially unlucky is higher. Standard deviation will always exist, but as the number of trials grows, it lowers (extremely slowly). Like no shit Truth likes dodge builds, he has comically bad luck
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@robin_moi Yeah you’re a fucking idiot. You can literally just replace the word dodge in my post and it’s the same fucking thing.
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@TheVanderBall Yes but it's calculated once per Atk
Most units have at least 2
Also, even if we are only talking about one Atk units, it's still highter than 9% chances to dodge, or less
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Are you being dense on purpose? I gave an example problem and explained that it isn’t as simple as just a 70-79 change. That also holds true for higher odds. Going from 90-92 makes a considerable impact on the standard deviation. You people need to realize that you are still giving your unit an additional 30% dodge chance, it’s just that it is procced separately from the dodge they have in their passive.
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@TheVanderBall Our point is, these 9 % aren't worth what they cost
And you made your calcs for a 70% dodge unit
It's even more true for a 80%/90
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@delaney_ne11188 I have some insane people on my friends list and I think one of them tries to get all the EZAs to 999
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@TheVanderBall You’re ranked second who the hell is the guy ranked above you 😭
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@robin_moi Math is always done in a vacuum, formulas and the theories behind them are factually proven. I'm not saying everyone has to switch their units to dodge builds now lmao. I'm explaining how statistical probabilities naturally deviate over multiple events with binary outcomes
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@TheVanderBall You're only calculating this in a vaccum tho
When we say "don't put more dodge on a dodge unit" it's because you gain more with investing in something else like additionnal atks or Crit. To kill the ennemy faster meaning less attacks to dodge, or stack more def
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@luverofpower @SuperSergio225 I mean my max stamina is 421 and it's still kind of a pain in the ass. The fact that I had just finished awakening him and getting his Super EZA medals made me doubly pissed
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@SuperSergio225 @TheVanderBall how early in the game are you that stamina is an issue
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@emmatpnlovebot I'm downloading Guild Wars 2 rn, gonna give it a shot. I saw that they remastered the first Guild Wars and while looking into it I realized I'd probably enjoy 2. I've mostly only played WoW AND ESO, but I've played both a lot. More WoW tho
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@TheVanderBall it sucks because they geniunely just don't make good mmo anymore. u got ffxiv, wow, eso... uh... idk... not much else
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@DuskSSJ I have basically every unit in my box Dokkan awakened and EZAed. I don't have all my WT units EZAed and maybe a few f2ps, but that's it. I've grinded an absurd amount of Zeni lmao
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@Isthiswhatitink No I wanna play some real games tonight not gacha slop
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@TheVanderBall Hop on that choice battle on stream mr, that dokkan content awaits
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@Balanceddd @SuperSergio225 No I'm doing this because I didn't have UI until today and must've spent them on some random sub EZA's awhile back
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@TheVanderBall @SuperSergio225 Ah i missread my bad then i didnt know you are doing this for Sub Ezas that are really relevant now in this dokkan era.
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@Balanceddd @SuperSergio225 It costs stamina when you have to go back and do the initial stages for medals again. Only going higher is free, not turning around
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@SuperSergio225 @TheVanderBall only SUPER EZA not regular bro what are you saying?
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