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@veinIuvr Guys bring up male victims (devoid of a conversation about women) a decent bit in some spaces, actually. You wouldn't know because these spaces are constantly being suppressed.

you incels only bring up male victims when conversations of SA of women r being discussed to invalidate their feelings. you do NOT care. if you did, it would be a separate conversation and you'd advocate for them, instead of bringing them up only when it's relevant to you.

@vividvoid True enough.

Men need to learn how to be friends with women who don't want to date them without getting bitter about it. The analog of this is women need to learn to be friends with men without keeping them as potential boyfriends-in-reserve if their current relationship doesn't work out

@Spamfromk I've observed the reverse - women losing interest in men who shower them with love.

I'm sure guys won’t admit this but, men get bored when a woman loves them too much and it's a fact. I seriously don't understand Why do men lose interest so fast? What's the issue with you guys?

@1800clockit As for what "hordes of men" think, yeah, you're right that many men hyper-inflate what they believe is going on. That being said, I still think it's valid for anybody to desire a low or non-existent body count in a partner.

@1800clockit Depends on the "average". For Median, it's 4.3 for women. For Mean, it's between 7 and 9. In both of these, the average is actually a bit higher for men. But for Mode (i.e. the most amount of people), the average is actually 1 (for both men and women).

It’s crazy how on average a woman will have 5 total sexual partners in life but there’s hordes of men who genuinely believe girls are having sex by the hundreds yearly

@Engelbertsy @_nomadic_soul By what metric? The original Chivalric Code? Sure, but no one practices that Chivalry anymore, it's a bygone practice for Knights. The modern egalitarian definition? That's literally what we're debating. The acts I listed are precisely what separates Chivalry from "decency".

@TriScaleArt @_nomadic_soul That's not chivalry.

Yet another example of: men don’t hear women when they speak. Many such cases.

@Nglmia_x "62 million" Get a grip ffs.

I’m a female Uber driver. At night, I use the “women riders only” filter. Most women understand immediately. Some even thank me. Last weekend, I pulled up to a pickup around 11:30 p.m. A woman waved from the curb. But she wasn’t getting in. Two men were. One opened the back door and said, “She ordered it for us.” I kept the doors locked. Uber allows me to cancel rides like this with no penalty. Still, they looked confused. One of them asked, “Is there a problem?” I said, “Sorry. I don’t take male passengers after dark.” They stared at me like I’d insulted them. So I gave them the only explanation that mattered. “62 million.” One of them frowned. The other nodded immediately. He closed the door and said to his friend, “Honestly… that’s fair.” Then they stepped back. I canceled the ride and drove away. For some people, it sounded harsh. For me, it was simple. Every woman has a number in her head. A statistic. A story. A reason. And every safety rule exists because someone learned the hard way not to ignore it.

@yourboibrando @lunamuse_ Hence the No True Scotsman.

@TriScaleArt @lunamuse_ No, as a man I can say feminism IS the second image. It's just that its name has been stollen by fascists who want to flip the disparity in their favor not get rid of it.

@christasyd is only part of the picture, and often the part they prioritize the least. Many men have figured this out, and advise other men. That's why men generally would rather listen to another men. But there are women that have learned how to translate womanese to men, too. Just less.

@christasyd amount of people the best advice, generalizations are extremely helpful. Here's a couple that play into this: Men are pretty direct communicators, so it's actually not a bad idea to listen to them tell you what they want. Women are not direct, and often what they say they want

Strangest part of heterosexual dating culture is how men will tell other men "this is what women like" and women will tell other women "this is what men like" instead of directly asking and actually regarding the opinions of the opposite gender.

@_nomadic_soul But even if YOU'RE willling to give these things up, there's a significant percentage of women who aren't.

@_nomadic_soul Financial burden (i.e. paying for dates), protective expectations like the "women and children first" precedent, limited resource sacrifice (if it's cold, and there's only one coat, who gets it?) Etc. Perhaps you don't see these things practiced. Perhaps you don't care.

@_nomadic_soul Regardless of whether you agree with this or not, there's more to chivalry than basic decency and loveliness. You can claim that you don't want those things, but by your statement, you'd have to be willing to forego those things. Maybe you are. But his point was you may not be.

@TriScaleArt If people are decent and lovely, what do I have to fear by killing chivalry? I swear you people don’t even have two working brain cells to rub together.

@AdenPolydoros Reasonable suspension of disbelief.

Like, how exactly is casting a Black actress as Helen of Troy, any different than casting a German or English actress as Helen? What percentage of Greek descent is necessary? Or are you just judging an actress based on her skin color?

@fieldsofgold2 @DiddlyDonger Oh, that I agree with. Fantasizing like that is disgusting. I don't necessarily disagree with @missus_wormy, so much as the direction @DiddlyDonger took it.

@TriScaleArt @DiddlyDonger Buddy none of this nonsense explains why it’s ok to see a hot woman and make up fantasies about how many men she’s been with. That is not normal behavior and women should filter out men who think like that, so I’m glad you’re into filtering.

The people who obsess over body counts are spiritually cucked. Imagine seeing a hot woman and instantly thinking about how many dicks have been inside her.

@jess_ann_pin Hot take: Dream girls don't exist, so you're right.

No man takes his dream girl on a coffee date. Get real.

@jess_ann_pin The fact that she can't overpower him isn't an excuse for bad behavior. In fact, it presents it's own problems - when a man is far stronger than a woman, overpowering her when she is assaulting him can lead to HIM being the "perpetrator". Quit trying to brush aside this crap.

@jess_ann_pin One of your arguments that keeps coming up is "head isn't sex". While it's not "intercourse", it is a sexual act. If a guy isn't consenting to sex, there's a high likelihood he doesn't want to engage in any sexual activity. You should make sure first.

Men, if your tiny girlfriend started giving you head after you told her you weren’t in the mood for sex, how would you feel and what would you do?