TryHarderer

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@ShooterCanine Not for my furry stuff, no

@TryHarderer_ Damn. But you do have a server for your general works?

@TryHarderer_ Yo. You have a Discord server or something for your characters? I’d like to keep up and since I live in Australia, some of the posts are falsely flagged as sensitive content and due to the broken age verification system, I’m unable to view them unless+

@Iconoclast488 Interacting with it doesn't help your TL lol

@TryHarderer_ I hate seeing AI on my TL

Well, do you?

@emperorthesteve I like both to different degrees! Definitely won't be only doing this style

@TryHarderer_ Adorable but I prefer the drawn look better than this pseudo-realistic style

I know artists and writers who use AI in their workflow to help them with things like posing, references, sentence structure, prose, etc, even as digital beta readers. But they don't want to mention it publicly because the anti-AI crowd would go crazy as if the time and effort they put into it suddenly didn't matter anymore

@TryHarderer_ Still, back when I was more active in the local fandom, I knew a few writers and was friendly with most. It was a small circlejerk because basically no one gave a shit about whatever we were doing. But God forbid if you talked shit about any "actual artist."

Controversial Opinion of the day: Most people complaining about AI only do so because it is encroaching on their personal golden goose. They'll crash out over a gacha game using AI for background billboards nobody notices, but don't bat an eye at AI being used for programming or other "invisible" parts of the same game. Never mind that basically every tech company, government, and game studio already uses AI extensively. It's performative and ego-driven, and you can see it in the gap between how "creators" react versus the general audience. At the end of the day, people care more about the value of the end product than the process of making it. The same people who tell you otherwise buy products sourced from slave labour yet have no problem doing so if it suits them.

@lsfl_ai I have seen it a tiny bit- but I think it's more of a case, that if someone is using AI right as the tool it is, people don't even notice that AI was used at all

@TryHarderer_ The funny thing is that I almost never see people talking about written works. Almost as if people in general never gave a fuck about writing, work-related or not, and now people give even less of a fuck than they used to.

@TehAngryXeno No worries, I figured that was the case lol. It would be quite silly to talk about it otherwise!

I should also probably mention for legal reasons, that my classmates and I were invited by those banks to attempt to hack through their systems while I was earning my Degree, and report to those banks how we managed to do it xD

@TehAngryXeno Haha, well, that's sounds like companies being dumb cutting corners more than anything At least, in my sector of CS, we have not had this issue yet

@TryHarderer_ Professionally, I'm an ethical hacker and have a Degree in Cybersecurity, and I've personally been able to hack into several local banks' systems because they got lazy and sloppy by laying off some of their IT People in favor of AI to manage their Cyberdefenses 😅

I personally don't see it any differently than humans observing the world and works around them and creating something of their own. Everything we make is in reference or connection to something we have observed previously, but placed in a new order. I imagine a truly 'original' idea is like finding a grain of sand in the sea

There are some important points to why “AI” is bad in this regard though. Ignoring the fact that it isn’t even real AI. These animations, images, words, whatever are all ultimately just stolen by people who feed them into a generative software that often can’t get it right anyway. There’s nothing “original” which is a term used loosely, but it is all created based off of works that have been taken, usually without consent of the original creators, and fed into software in the thousands, millions, maybe billions to generate something that approximates the users inputs. “AI” that write for people frequently fall into the same speech patterns and stories over and over again, repeating words, muddling information, contradicting its own story if it gets long enough. While I can agree to some level that “AI” is useful, even helpful in various regards, it is also blatant theft with no regard for the original creators it steals from. And the only reason nobody has tried to create e a lawsuit is because it would be incredibly hard and long winded to prove your work was even stolen, or where from or who by for it to be fed into such a system, and it would become a lawsuit that involves every single person who had been stolen from, likely winding up in some forever lawsuit nightmare. Which nobody that the work is stolen from can afford to do. Sure, if the “AI” was a true AI that used inspiration from works and searched for images to refer to, then drew the image itself like an actual “living” and learning thing similar to a human being, but of course faster being an AI, it might be a different story, but that isn’t the case. Current “creative/art AI” is theft/plagiarism, pure and simple. It’s not a matter of “boo hoo you are losing your money because AI is better”, the “AI” isn’t better, it’s just literally ripping off other peoples hard work by thousands to millions, then generating somehting by blending it into a digital soup while burning through electricity, increasing prices for RAM and processing and Graphics cards by hundreds-thousands fold in massive “AI” farms with servers full of stolen data, so that someone can generate their possibly brilliant but most likely awful “creation” and pick the best one out of tens to hundreds of monstrosities so they can declare “look at this cool thing I “created” using the generator. But hey, that’s just my perspective.

There is some environmental effect, but it is definitely overplayed. It is mainly a local issue, not a national one. There are other industries using far more water and causing issues than data centers And I don't need to go further into what we do versus what the third world does

Pay attention to the "environmental" argument many are trying to use against AI and development of technology. I'm gradually starting to learn that just like all the other "green" arguments certain uh groups of people try to bring up it's all a load of BS. Like for example I just recently learned that the whole it uses a lot of water thing might be full of crap because Internet data centers we use to connect to the web everyday uses the exact same method of cooling etc. So be careful when they try to bring the environment crap into it starting to notice they use this tactic for everything and it's smelling fishy. Similar tactics are used against crypto. I'm at a point where I just take it all with a grain of salt now.

@TehAngryXeno I personally haven't seen jobs in CS get replaced by AI yet, but I have definitely seen them augmented

@TryHarderer_ I hear you and agree with you on all counts; I acknowledge that AI is going to inevitably destroy many peoples' jobs... it should just be done more selectively instead of shoehorning it before AI is ready to take over those jobs (again, I'm referring to Cybersecurity, mainly)

@TehAngryXeno Environmental is the only real concern I have. Losing jobs isn't a concern, but rather a reality-I have opinions on it but it is what it is Environmental though, is something we can change more objectively for the better and I'm all in on that

I view AI at the moment, to be a double-edged sword. On one end, it's incredible — especially as a historian and researcher; trying to input search parameters on Google to find extremely niche sources of information is nigh impossible. But if I use most AI models to do that same task? That AI knows exactly what I'm talking about, and points me in the right direction, which saves me hours of work per day. On the other end... I'm still pretty hostile towards most forms of AI, because it's been the cause of the current RAM and potential GPU price surges, which has personally affected the progress of my videogame development (I need to upgrade my hardware), big businesses screwing over their workers with unnecessary AI (like outsourcing their Cybersecurity to AI, which is a huge mistake since AI still makes many more mistakes than a human does right now), along with data centers popping up everywhere which rape the environment and surrounding peoples. However... if @elonmusk, and similar-minded people can actually move those data centers into the sea and/or in space? My hostile attitude towards AI will rapidly fade away. Furthermore: if you're using your local hardware for AI generation instead of relying on online models? You're good in my book

@PeterJCasaey Sounds exactly what I said in the first sentence then

No its the fact that AI lowers the value of everything untill its a homogenized noise for max dopamine output. The gate of going through creators and craftsman kept the price high and people were willing to value that due to its rarity. The social contract is broken. Everything now is a quick scam for a buck and no one is willing to pay.

@TekMoff I've had quite a few of them on my latest posts recently. However, it's nice to know they are an extreme minority, they are just very loud and trying to shame others under my posts

@TryHarderer_ People bitch that you make an animation that makes followers smile because you didn't pay an animator hundreds of dollars for a 15 second clip of my waifu being wholesome. Boo hoo to them. Miller is hot.

@WolfFenris6347 Most definitely correct on that last bit. I personally own a collection of original physical paintings worth around 5k or so from my favorite artist

Hit, center mass, it's like monks complaining about the printing press being invented. They are not able to charge horrendous prices for sub par products anymore because now everybody can put the image in their head on the canvas as they imagined them selfs. And most big (and Accualy good) artists don't complain because they are Accualy worth what they charge

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@Garrettfox54 Maybe. I can't say I rightfully know!

@TryHarderer_ Yes like my 2500

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