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@lizalth It's not that Nasu made her weaker but Ciel had become a completely different beast which was stated to be the pinnacle of human potential. Same where humanity has always been wanked to high heavens. Also where did you get that 10x lifescale of any DAA? And wdym resist Luminary?

@UltimateAzzy If a character was intended to be at the "top" along with arc in the original, and in the remake all we know of her is that she's terrifying, 10x the lifescale of any DAA, & is implied to be the only one to be able to resist the luminary, why would we assume nasu made her weaker

Made a powerscaling tierlist of the VN characters in type moon I probably missed a few but lmk what you think of my opinion

@lizalth Nvm I was thinking of the wrong one. Not a mistranslation.

@lizalth None of this statement proves that she is even close to Ciel lol? The second screenshot is also a mistranslation since it's talking about her being a one in a ten thousand years "Oni". Surpassing OG Arc is cool and all but remake Ciel will literally beat that even without her fp.

@lizalth Also Berserk Arc in the remake is vastly stronger than that of OG. As I've said with our current info there is no reason for Akiha to be that high albeit I am not saying there is no chance in the future.

@UltimateAzzy Her position in the OG is that while fully inverted, she ‘exceeds a rampaging arcueid’ in contrast Ciel in the Remake can barely hold her own against a berserk arc lol

@lizalth That's the OG ye which is unknown to be the case in the remake. Nasu could've changed all of that just like how much she changed Ciel. OG Ciel was meant to be someone that could only go defensive against average level servants lol. Now she could destroy even the strongest.

@lizalth Mind you Remake Arc in Ciel true end casually uses attacks that tilt the planet's axis and possess a planetary amount of magical energy. In melty blood meanwhile with her full arsenal she was able to fight Red Arc and was able to make her go Luminary.

@lizalth As I've said her plunder ability while broken is not almighty. Firstly the drain is not instant and the power itself heavily relies on her vision. Her position in the OG is to be as strong or stronger than 30% Arc. Remake Ciel can fight a Remake Arc that is berserk.

@KojoApp98034218 @lizalth Ciel lost to many people without her full arsenal yes.

@UltimateAzzy @lizalth Ciel lost to akiha

@lizalth Remake Ciel should be the one beside Arc. And about Shiki, there is nothing fair about fighting AE. Only ORT could beat that monster.

@lizalth Because she is simply not that strong. Her plundering ability while broken is nothing compared to what Ciel currently has with her full arsenal who can compete with Arc who is vastly stronger than the OG. Unless the remake gives her something, putting her above Beo is laughable.

@valor_phoenix Because Shinji is his Jester that he can tolerate him. Do you remember how angry he gets after Prelati said he was a jester? He himself acknowledged fools who can make kings laugh and Shinji does that by being himself. I am not joking nor belittling Shinji but this is the reason.

Okay can Someone Actually Explain WHY Gilgamesh let Shinji touch him, in fate zero he tried to kill Lancelot just for LOOKING at him, but he lets THIS slide, WHY !?!?! 😭 #Gilgamesh #Fate #Fateseries #FateStayNight #fatezero #FateSR #FateStrange #FateSF #FateGrandOrder #FateGO

@GilgameshLFX @Jay_Constell @seraphu00 No it first appeared in Hollow Ataraxia. Even Nasu said the source of naked Gil in CCC is in Hollow Ataraxia.

@UltimateAzzy @Jay_Constell @seraphu00 It's actually the CCC inspired. Which, he did went naked in the game.

Kid Gil is objectively the most overpowered Gilgamesh because he lacks Gil's most fatal flaw: his pride. All without Caster Gil's overbearing sense of royal governance.

@adelheidx333 ORT and potentially Maris Chaldea is the strongest although she is the third. As for their fight, Gilgamesh wouldn't even harm her and she would one shot him.

I'm aware that Arcueid is the strongest character in Nasuverse,but how exactly would a fight between her and Gilgamesh go, obviously considering both of them would go all out (Gil pulling out Ea)

@TheNewJew22 @adelheidx333 That is old lore. In the remake she can now increase her output beyond even the weapons.

@adelheidx333 As a massive Arcuied fan - Gil wins. She scales to the power of the person she’s fighting, and while he is strong, his weapons are not him, and so he can overpower her.

@Jay_Constell @seraphu00 The "naked" here does not mean literally naked as you can see. It originally appeared in Hollow Ataraxia and they described it as Gilgamesh shedding the luxury of a King and becoming serious for the first time in his life. It's still funny he is called Gilgamesh Naked tho.

@UltimateAzzy @seraphu00 I'm still laughing at the fact grand archer trial Gil is literally called Gilgamesh Naked

@wrath5_s @valor_phoenix It's their Legend, fame, and a master that decides their power. Legend decides their maximum potential basically, fame and master can make them "stronger" as in being closer to their legend. Divine Spirits are generally superior because they naturally have higher spiritual rank.

@valor_phoenix For once, Flat is right. The strength of Heroic Spirit is relative to the mystery they have. Divine spirit naturally have more mystery that average heroic spirit, but it doesn’t mean they can’t reach the same level

Thank you Flat for saying it Clearly, Heroic Spirits CAN BE ON PAR WITH DIVINE SPIRITS, Being a divine spirit does not automatically make you stronger #Fate #FateSeries #FateSF #FateStrange #Tsukihime #FateStrangeFake #FateGrandOrder #FateStayNight

@ryohgo_narita @Shadow45201 @TypeRamza @Adamgotsussed When will the last volume of fate strange fake be released I wonder. I am excited to know more about this new Gilgamesh and his interaction with Enkidu.

@Shadow45201 @TypeRamza @Adamgotsussed Haha, there’s nothing like that written in either the original work or the comic. It’s just a playful image edit of him.

I’m so sad they cut this scene in the Fate/Strange Fake anime

@ALIali55641319 @TheMashStan Gilgamesh was winning in that fight and he was about to bring out the antidote to the Hydra Venom to counter Nine lives but Ishtar then closed his gates which allowed Alcides to have a good hit. Ishtar did save him which is quite a bad thing for him as someone who hates the gods.

@UltimateAzzy @TheMashStan She did not save him it was Alcides who attacked Gilgamesh not the other way around

This your guy? #IDFHerc #IshtarsGoodLittleFraud