Raven Night

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Raven Night

Raven Night

@Vryzke

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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@TheWhicher_Man @den0___ @Manga_Kamen ....The original question refers to the DMC1 game itself, as well as DMC1-adjacent novels, trying to find out if it was written down that Mundus kidnapped Vergil. If the Novels aren't saying it, maybe somewhere in the Game's script does, but the game only indirectly confirms it.
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Whicher, The Projekt Red Fanatic@TheWhicher_Man·
@Vryzke @den0___ @Manga_Kamen The argument isn't about DMC1 not revealing its Vergil. It's about how people say the novel directly says Vergil was kidnapped and Dante saw it, but that's never said anywhere in the novel. It's easily inferred in DMC1, but the novel never mentions that.
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MangaKamen - 99%@Manga_Kamen·
So, I'm wracking my brain - I went back to the first DMC game, I re-read the first novel... And maybe I'm an idiot - but can someone tell me where it's said that Mundus 'kidnapped' Vergil when he was a child? I'm mostly asking for clarification, cause I had some people tell me that was a thing.
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Whicher, The Projekt Red Fanatic
Whicher, The Projekt Red Fanatic@TheWhicher_Man·
@Vryzke @den0___ @Manga_Kamen But the post is about the novel supposedly saying that, when it doesn't. Yeah it can be inferred in DMC1, but people keep saying the novel reveals that Vergil was taken during the attack and Dante saw it, when that isn't the case.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@den0___ @Manga_Kamen This implies that Mundus didn't kill Vergil- he kidnapped him, and turned him into the Nelo Angelo. And he knows what he did, as he personally says to Trish that "Vergil has been defeated."
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@den0___ @Manga_Kamen Trish mentions Dante "lost a Mother and a Brother to Evil 20 years ago." which indirectly confirms Eva and Vergil's deaths. M17 shows the Nelo Angelo looks similar to Dante- and drops a similar Amulet to Dante's own. Meaning the Angelo was Dante's brother.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@TheWhicher_Man @den0___ @Manga_Kamen We're looking at DMC1 in enough of a vacuum, no later games. Trish mentions Dante "lost a Mother and a Brother to Evil 20 years ago." indirectly confirming Eva and Vergil were killed. It's only in M17 that we learn that Vergil was alive- meaning Mundus kidnapped Vergil.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@DaiTigris @Manga_Kamen It is. That's part of the problem with Itsuno retconning Kamiya's DMC1 story. Likewise, DMC3 started the idea of the Sparda brothers being twins; DMC1's script only mentions being Brothers. There's also a voiced line by DMC1 Dante's VA implying Sparda was to appear in DMC1, too.
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DaiTigris
DaiTigris@DaiTigris·
@Vryzke @Manga_Kamen But my point is you can't claim it's 100% intent when the detail of how is missing. The feeling doesn't change just cause he didn't kidnap him as a kid.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@DaiTigris @Manga_Kamen ...That's the point. Because it makes the reveal of Virgil's apparent survival in M17 in DMC1 more poignant- and heartbreaking when Dante has to defeat his own brother, and only remaining family. Showing just how cruel Mundus was.
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DaiTigris
DaiTigris@DaiTigris·
@Vryzke @Manga_Kamen By that logic Eva could have easily been kidnapped cause it's left undefined. I've heard folks debate all day what they thought the authors meant, so unless you can find some authorial intent to back it up, I'm not getting it anymore than your claiming it is so.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@DaiTigris @Manga_Kamen DMC1 implies that Vergil was kidnapped 20 years prior; Dante "Lost a Mother and a Brother to Evil 20 years ago." Both Eva and Vergil were lost together. DMC3 retcons it so that Vergil wasn't lost, and also encountered Dante a year prior, before staying in the Demon World.
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DaiTigris
DaiTigris@DaiTigris·
@Vryzke @Manga_Kamen Except you can't retcon something that was never actually stated. The only implication is that he ended up in Mundus control and they didn't change that part at all.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@Manga_Kamen Add Angelo's reaction to Dante's Amulet, and then dropping a similar Amulet after M17, implying Vergil was never killed, but was kidnapped and turned into the Nelo Angelo in 20 years. Until DMC3's retcon.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@Manga_Kamen I believe it's meant to be Implications from DMC1 at worst. We're told Dante "lost a Mother and a Brother to Evil 20 years ago." Implying Eva and Vergil were killed. Then in M17, we see Nelo Angelo bears a resemblance to Dante, revealing him to be Vergil.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@Dimunsis @Manga_Kamen We're not factoring in later DMC's retcons. Using DMC1 and the adjacent media to DMC1 alone, it's asking for a specific source. And the greater implication is that Mundus kidnapped Vergil 20 prior, leading Dante to believe Vergil was dead. Until DMC1's events proper.
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Dimunsis@Dimunsis·
@Manga_Kamen I *think* his first encounter with Mundus is when he falls into Hell at the end of DMC3. Think it was only shown in the SE of 3? I haven't read the novels, so I could be wrong.
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XIFFON@XIFFON_·
@tamayan2nd 因果はともかく、表現より年齢制限をちゃんと機能をさせるべきだと思うな⋯
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たまやん2nd
たまやん2nd@tamayan2nd·
そんなに創作の表現を厳しくしてるから性犯罪が12人に1人起きるレベルで発生する国になってるんじゃないかって思っちゃうけど、まあ因果はわからんね……。
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@shib_ari06 @DumberDanTen @FrankAboveAll @BrunoGoldberg I mean, considering the various Slayer Gates in almost every level, I feel the intention was to ensure that Players had enough ammo for both the Gates, and regular level progression. Since the DLC gates only unlock extra skins and DLC-exclusive runes, it's not as plentiful.
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Ariane@shib_ari06·
@Vryzke @DumberDanTen @FrankAboveAll @BrunoGoldberg I understand that its supposed to be sort of a panic button, but its ammo is common enough so that u can start most arenas by using one, which does make them significantly easier, hence the bfg example. Theres a reason why that isnt the case in the dlcs, especially the first one
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Bruno🇧🇷
Bruno🇧🇷@BrunoGoldberg·
Game design (1/3🧵)
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@shib_ari06 @DumberDanTen @FrankAboveAll @BrunoGoldberg You're misinterpreting the BFG's design. Functionally, it's meant to be more of a "Panic Button" weapon. If something goes south that you didn't plan for, you use it to regain control and gain ground again. It's supposed to be used enough, but not as a "Main" weapon.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@Varamathras Yeah~! Always looking for beautiful Twili Midna backgrounds for my phone and PC~~
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Varamathras
Varamathras@Varamathras·
I've taken some time off, and got through my request backlog. Post below if you'd like to make a request.
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Raven Night
Raven Night@Vryzke·
@_mAKE_mE_mAD_ You buy something. That something is taken away from you. Is that right? If that is not right, then why does the Company get the free pass to take what you buy away from you?
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Raven Night@Vryzke·
@_Ray_mh Someone takes away something you own. Is it fair? If no, then you should do what you can to get it back. Apply this with Companies, who are doing this regularly. If it's not OK one way, it's not OK as a whole. Why do Companies get the free pass to take what you own away?
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Ray@_Ray_mh·
なんかニーアの海賊版の話、「失われた芸術品を他の人間の手で修復し保管するなんて当たり前のことだぞ黄色いサルの日本人」みたいなこと言ってる外人が居て意味わからん　お前がプレイできないだけで会社にデータがあるなら失われてないだろ　他人の所有するものを会社の倉庫から盗んでるだけだろ
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