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Wayne Himelsein

@WayneHimelsein

CIO of Logica. 30 yrs in trading and quant finance. Passionate about science, math, education, and markets. (These are my personal opinions, not Logica's.)

Los Angeles, CA Katılım Ocak 2012
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Wayne Himelsein
Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
Over my 25yrs in the game of quantitative investing, and drenched in equations and models, I've honed in on the only math that really matters: Minimize drawdowns during unfavorable times. The multiplicative nature of positive returns during good times does all the rest.
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Kris Sidial🇺🇸@Ksidiii·
Unless this turns into a full-blown tail event, in the coming weeks you’re going to hear about long volatility and tail risk products losing money in this selloff. You’ll probably ask yourself, “Wait, how does that make any sense? You lose money for years waiting for a crash, and when it finally happens, you still lose money?” Wayne does a great job explaining this. I’ve spent years trying to explain it to foundations and pensions. These rigid, dogmatic tail risk structures are not strategies—they’re marketing narratives. They look great on paper but consistently underdeliver when you need them most. What you actually need is a dynamic system—one that understands where the value is on the volatility surface, across tenor and delta, and knows when it makes economic sense to sell that risk back to the market. A system that adapts in real time to changing market conditions.
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Hedging with long vol exposure is expensive so many people go short the belly to be long tails. @WayneHimelsein tells @opmpod why in most sell offs this does more harm than good. Apple bit.ly/4jkSZ8V Spotify bit.ly/3FXYps8 YouTube bit.ly/4llik4q

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Mariana Menchero
Mariana Menchero@mmencherogarcia·
Hey @WayneHimelsein someone is impersonating you. I already blocked and reported the account, but I think you should know.
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Johannes Meixner
Johannes Meixner@xmjEE·
@WayneHimelsein g'morning, you're being impersonated by WayneHimeLsen You might want to ask people to report that account
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Wayne Himelsein
Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
Over my 25yrs in the game of quantitative investing, and drenched in equations and models, I've honed in on the only math that really matters: Minimize drawdowns during unfavorable times. The multiplicative nature of positive returns during good times does all the rest.
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Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
@FREAK0NAUT @LyfeOfPELK All the data points of all high magnitude drawdowns in history are still too sparse for any real empirical value; that wasn't the point. This illustrates the others scatter as options do, with convexity, but 2022 is clearly linear. (IV hit 120+ in '08; its convexity is a given).
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Freak0naut
Freak0naut@FREAK0NAUT·
@LyfeOfPELK how could you not include 2008 @WayneHimelsein ? to me without that there's only 2 data points on here 2020 and 2022 so it's hard to divine anything from it
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Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
Someone recently asked me to “teach them quant”, which got me thinking - how do you really teach that? Sure, one can be taught math, modeling, testing protocols, etc. but as to being a quant, that’s just in you, or not. What makes me a quant, above all, is my drive to quantify.
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Bradlito@Bradlito1·
@WayneHimelsein Right. Example: A non-quant wants to know how fast Usain Bolt ran the 100m. A quant wants to know: 1) his reaction time to the gun; 2) his top-end speed; 3) where (in meters) it occurred; and 4) how much it fell off at the end of the sprint. And, this'd just be for starters.
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Jim Carroll@vixologist·
@WayneHimelsein I’m driven; Driven to be smarter; Driven to work harder; Driven to be better everyday; Driven to keep on and on; To achieve the things I want; I’ll be sorry if I don’t; Make the most of livin’; I’m driven” ― Dolly Parton, Run Rose Run
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Manish Bidasaria
Manish Bidasaria@GammaOverTheta·
@WayneHimelsein I would start with creativity - get comfortable brainstorming and trashing 90% of ideas. Then learn the specific tools to best flesh out the remaining 10%. Without creativity, quants end up overfitting data and build strategies with low explanatory/staying power.
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Wayne Himelsein
Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
@OptionAlpha3 Absolutely... Starting with, how does one quantify "value"? For ex: Price/Book is a quantitative measure, but is it the best one? Perhaps testing metrics or ratios adds insight. Or assessing value edge in shifting market regimes, etc..
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Option Alpha@OptionAlpha3·
@WayneHimelsein Do you think there is any crossover between the value investing philosophy and being a quant? Or could there be?
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Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
@choffstein Corey, there's literally no risk of you annoying us by highlighting our thoughtful content... always happy to support your efforts to illuminate and educate!
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Corey Hoffstein 🏴‍☠️
Corey Hoffstein 🏴‍☠️@choffstein·
At the risk of annoying @WayneHimelsein, I wanted to highlight this section of his monthly letter. In my original rebalance timing luck paper, I pointed out that benchmarks can benefit from RTL (Image #1) Convexity makes RTL impact explode. Wayne discusses nicely (#2 & #3)
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Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
@reddykk Put spreads; calendar or moneyness, e.g. short ATM, long OTM, or short Feb ‘23, long Aug ‘22, and the endless other combinations within and across like or dispersed underlyings.
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Wayne Himelsein
Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
A great irony of quant research is the idea that the data is full of possibilities. Yes, it is - the next innovation may be in there. At the same time, its full of constraints and obstacles; from bias to randomness to overfishing decay - an enemy that grows stronger with time.
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Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
@vixologist @NotQuiteMidlife @daveblob As an easy example, don't ever build Black-Scholes, just go online and download an excel plug-in. And once you have that, utilize it to spend your time building a model to best price the IV vs. RV relationship, and what is cheap/expensive for the spread in terms of your process.
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Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
@vixologist @NotQuiteMidlife @daveblob Assume so! Waiting for reply... in the meantime, my read of it is that its not worth our resources to build straightforward/linear models, they're all out there already. Our time should be spent on building models that serve our own decision process - tools that give us guidance.
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Wayne Himelsein
Wayne Himelsein@WayneHimelsein·
Claude Shannon described information as “the resolution of uncertainty”- the view ahead may be fuzzy, but as more information rolls in, the resolution increases toward clarity. In financial markets (and life) the question for each of us is what resolution we need to take action.
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