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@MissOoo1g Stupid? Read your own post. You’re saying that women who enjoy being grid girls under their own free will can’t possibly have been happy just because you’ve decided so for them? Utterly delusional. This is the exact issue with people like you. The belief that your view is gospel.

@WelshColts25 You cannot be this stupid. It can simultaniously be they are nice women who enjoy their job and to the outside world that job does ansolutely nothing to highlight them as people & offers nothing to the sport worth keeping. They arent conflicting ideas unless you dont think deeply

No, I dont think womens primary visibility in f1 should be as sex objects. They dont speak, they dont present, you dont even know their names. Its just their bodies used as props. It looks like a harem not a sport.

@tufpraise Prince Harry 3 weeks into I’m a Celebrity.

This is an Albino Indian btw

@MissOoo1g Therein lies the issue. Someone that has been involved is letting you know the realities for the women involved but you refuse to accept that because it doesn’t align to your view. Another case of not letting the truth get in the way of a good story. 👍

@WelshColts25 You are not following the fundamental premise of the thread. You know them as people because of experience. On tv theres no such angle for grid girls. They were solely objectified props. They didnt host, they dont make speaking content,they arent allowed depth in that role

@formiito @MissOoo1g Separate entities. Mechanics are paid by the teams. Marketing budgets for races come from the promoter. But yes I agree in principle about their pay relative to how long they are away from families each season.

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g f1 aint struggling for marketing. id rather the money for grid girls go to the mechanics anyway. You know, the ones that are shockingly underpaid.

@formiito @MissOoo1g That’s not the point and you know it. If need was the basis of the world then the marketing industry would be worthless.

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g ...no, i buy underwear because i need to wear it. Lmfao

@yaizanxvas @MissOoo1g We have dealt with Jersey boys in our other thread. I’m not making it personal or false accusations about you, so I’d ask that you show the same courtesy.

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g a personal attack would be making fun of you for being a hamilton fan. bringing up the fact you publicly consume porn in a conversation about the objectification of women is absolutely relevant. now, you’re the one not answering properly. the jersey boys thing for example

@yaizanxvas @MissOoo1g It’s also a huge global production. Yes it is horrible, but the problem is that the only ‘sexualisation’ being called out aimed at men while women can do the same things without any call for change within that sphere. It’s these woke double standards that men are fed up of. 👍

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g okay, that is absolutely horrible. now that ive said thats horrible and it IS dehumanization, what’s your response. btw google says it’s a movie so

@yaizanxvas @MissOoo1g Kids can go yes. Age 12. Google is your friend 👍

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g so not gonna answer?

@MissOoo1g Wrong. Complete misconception. How would I know them, their jobs, their children’s names without them being able to speak? You haven’t a clue.

@WelshColts25 So you personally knew them and they were nice professional women, something that doesnt translate when they arent allowed to speak, are handed sexualised clothes, have no role beyond standing around as acessories to men. Nothing you are saying negates how poor the optics are

@yaizanxvas @MissOoo1g Do your research then.

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g i have no idea what you’re talking about but based on what you’re saying, i agree that is dehumanizing. now since i don’t know the jersey boys, are children allowed to go, watch, or take photos with these men?

@MissOoo1g @yaizanxvas There is if you are BANGING the equality drum. Like you seem to want to do…. Until it doesn’t suit the narrative you are pedalling.

@WelshColts25 @yaizanxvas The Jersey Boys are explicitly an adult stage show. F1 is a sport based in excellence. Everyone from dogs to toddlers to 100 year olds watch. Theres no comparison in these things.

@MissOoo1g @yaizanxvas See this is the thing. You can try and turn things and make it a personal attack on people (which also isn’t accurate). But all that shows is you are losing the debate and can’t bring up a reasonable response. Usual liberal attitude.

@yaizanxvas @WelshColts25 Oh no he really is following porn accounts, jfc.

@yaizanxvas @MissOoo1g You can’t count by the look of it. Good try at a bait post though. Now try actually answering a fair question for once.

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g the man who follows dozens of porn accounts comes to tell you what women’s clothes actually are

@ak47akemi @lizziessdiary But you can’t ‘get’ it can you? Because they bring it to you, you don’t actually get it yourself! Don’t get me started on ‘can I do’. Sounds like you want to shag it. Just say ‘can I please have’ like normal people! If they’ve run out they will just say no😂🤷🏻‍♂️Hate Americanisation

@lizziessdiary i always say “can i get” or “can i do” that way there’s an opportunity for them to say no if they’re out of an item! i also tend to customize my food a lot (i smoke too much weed and think im a food critic) so it’s like i’m asking permission to do so

@yaizanxvas @MissOoo1g Woke nonsense i’m afraid. The Jersey Boys are topless in theatres every night with screaming women. Are they there for the quality of the acting or the sexualised nature? Let’s get that cancelled to in the interest of equality. Amazing how it’s only ever one way traffic isn’t it?

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g nothing of what you just said erases de dehumanization of the concept grid girls

@MissOoo1g @yaizanxvas I would suggest if you think 3/4 length red trousers and a white Marlboro T shirt is barely dressed then you need to recalibrate your mind. You’ve also failed to address my point about the Jersey Boys. Please do….

@WelshColts25 @yaizanxvas Diversified past the point of needing barely dressed models following drivers around. If there was an appetite for it with brand partners, it would be there. You are arguing with a wall.

@yaizanxvas @MissOoo1g I worked in British Touring cars in the 2010s and knew many of the grid girls. Many were highly qualified professional women with full time jobs that did this for some fun and extra money. Hardly morally abhorrent and all done with free choice.

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g what i’m reading is that we do not need grid girls for f1 to make money. ah, yes. being hired just to be quiet, nameless, and look pretty for men to look at you is not dehumanizing at all!!

@MissOoo1g Nobody foced anyone to be a grid girl. I worked in British Touring cars in the 2010s and knew many of the grid girls. Many were highly qualified professional women with full time jobs that did this on the weekend for some fun and extra money. Hardly morally abhorrent….

@WelshColts25 Being hypersexual is a huge trade off for what types of companies are willing to work with the sport. If the best you have to offer is sexualised product maybe its not that good. Theres so many other angles like Kit Kat, Hotwheels, Lego, hotel partners, IT, tool manufactors etc

@MissOoo1g What a load of rubbish. They are clothed, paid and chose to do it. I presume you support the immediate cancellation of the Jersey Boys because those scantily clad men are making money from theatres full of screaming women? Sounds like a load of woke nonsense to me I’m afraid. 🤷🏻‍♂️

@WelshColts25 Its irrelevant if they are making hundreds of millions in economic impact without looking like a grimey offshoot of a Diddy party. They arent alienating children and women. "But it makes money" is a morally bankrupt reason to exploit women. Branding doesnt have to be sexual

@yaizanxvas @MissOoo1g Because its revenue streams through sponsors are widely diversified. We had the tobacco boom, tech boom, crypto boom and now the addition of global growth through Netflix. Basic business acumen. What is dehumanising about being fully clothed, paid and choosing to work?

@WelshColts25 @MissOoo1g then how come f1 is still making millions without needing to dehumanize women?