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Katılım Şubat 2013
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@loboestas27 I don’t agree that you’re right at all. I’m addressing your insults to me, since you seem more interested in that. I believe that the Islanders have the right to choose. That should be respected and is far more important than colonial charters or viceroyal claims. That’s all.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
@WhapXI Insisto, sabes que tengo razon y tus argumentos no tienen muchos fundamentos entonces hablas de mi pasado (???) y si hablamos del suyo? Como en 1806 y 1807 invadieron mi pais? Y en 1845 tambien? Son nuestros enemigos, eso lo sabemos muy bien.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
Quien mejor para explicar el genocidio que un ingles, si sabrán ellos...
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@TheCordobear @loboestas27 Forced displacement is a form of genocide. Land theft, destruction of culture, it’s all genocide. You need to learn about these things before you deny them. You intend genocidal acts on those people and declare it proudly.

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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@ProleOtter The best I can ascertain is that some of the Argentinian lot would be fine with the kelpers staying and speaking english and having the same rights they have now. Many of the rest have more grisly ideas. Openly relishing the idea of forced displacement. Ghastly rhetoric.
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ProletarianOtter🔻@ProleOtter·
Anyway thats me done arguing for the night. I have never claimed that the Falklands belong to the British or are British. I've always held that they belong to the people who live on the islands. I will forever support self-determination of peoples should they ask for it.
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@oroporbaratijas And schoolkids in argentina aren’t taught anything else, it sounds like! First lesson, History (began in 1833), a short lesson on continental shelfs, and then forced to stare at maps of Argentina with the Falklands on there as part of it just to get them angry before home time.
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Nati@oroporbaratijas·
chiques a los ingleses en el colegio ni les enseñan que piratearon y colonizaron medio mundo mirá si van a saber la historia de los asentamientos en las Malvinas
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@loboestas27 That makes sense. When you stop accepting an imaginary past you’ll have to question your imaginary idea of the present. This is too much work for a mind like yours, to question your priors. Your President needs more posts about Islands so he can sell your land to Israel.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
@WhapXI No te voy a responder esta psicopateada sacada de contexto porque no tenes mas argumentos para defender la ocupación ilegal sobre nuestro territorio. Tus psyops no hacen ni cosquillas.
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@TheCordobear @loboestas27 As do I. I hope one day it can be so. That our countries can work together. But with so much inflammatory talk on both sides it seems further away than ever. To a brighter future, I hope. I’ll leave talking on this matter to angrier souls I think.
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Oso ⚡ 🇦🇷@TheCordobear·
@WhapXI @loboestas27 No tenemos nada en contra de ellos. No tenemos nada en contra de ustedes como personas. Solamente queremos que se resuelva la situación.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
La ONU habla de los intereses de la población (condiciones de vida, derechos y garantias). No de los deseos de la poblacion de las Malvinas. Son cosas muy diferentes.
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@loboestas27 The same UN that ruled that any transfer of sovereignty of the islands to Argentina would have to be with the consent of the population? That UN? Are we talking of the same body here?

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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@loboestas27 I’m sure your indigenous ancestors became spanish speaking catholics because the butchers from europe were just so kindhearted and persuasive. You are in denial of your own past. And you talk about other countrys’ pasts. You are a sick individual.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
@WhapXI No. Nadie tanto de genocidio como un inglés. Mis antepasados? Argentinos. Argentina no es Estados Unidos. Argentina es un pais mestizo.
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@TheCordobear @loboestas27 Argentina does have an army. But if history is anything to go by, by law. Change the names of towns and streets to spanish versions. Force anyone who wants to participate in civil society to do so in spanish. Force them to either assimilate or lose their rights.
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Oso ⚡ 🇦🇷@TheCordobear·
@WhapXI @loboestas27 Es que es así. A ver, amigo, ¿con qué armas y con que huevos vamos a hacer un genocidio o un desplazamiento?
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@loboestas27 @TheCordobear And so all of the Argentines telling me they’ll be killed and all will be removed by force when the islands are retaken, these people are all fools and liars talking out of their arsed? Because I don’t see any of your countrymen correcting them.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
@WhapXI @TheCordobear No somos genocidas nosotros, no somos ingleses, los kelpers son argentinos por pertenecer a nuestro territorio, me da igual su deseo de ser ingleses, pueden recibir derechos y garantias por ser argentinos o irse a Londres, no es muy difícil.
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@loboestas27 Every population is implanted. You yourself descend from imperial spanish implants. Your right to your land is as flimsy. You are a hypocrite to declare your nation sovereign and not theirs. I know you are raised to hate all anglos, but please, have a principled stance.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
@WhapXI No. No nos quieras vender como el malo de la historia por reclamar nuestro territorio y nuestros recursos ROBADOS POR 🇬🇧, esa pobre población implantada, tiene derecho a decidir sus intereses, su deseo de ser ingleses no, porque aca no corre la autodeterminación de los pueblos.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
Es hermoso debatir con ingleses porque te das cuenta que no tienen argumentos para defender la ocupación ilegal en Malvinas. Confunden interes con deseo, meten la autodeterminación de los pueblos que no corre en esta causa. Tenemos una verdad y la verdad es una espada. Volveremos
whap 🌹@WhapXI

@loboestas27 Is it not in their interest to avoid being governed by a country of people who call them thieves and pirates and english pigs? I would argue it’s in their interest that no Argentine government should ever have any control over their lands.

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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@TheCordobear @loboestas27 Forced displacement is a form of genocide. Land theft, destruction of culture, it’s all genocide. You need to learn about these things before you deny them. You intend genocidal acts on those people and declare it proudly.
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@loboestas27 And there we have it I suppose. What’s a few thousand ordinary lives against the avarice of a hungry state? A worthy sacrifice, says Argentina.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
@WhapXI Y una base militar de la OTAN no lo olvides. Por favor, que cinismo hablar de la pobre población implantada. Lo que el pueblo argentino quiere es su territorio y sus recursos. Si, es por tierra y petróleo esto. Por soberania. Depredan nuestro mar. Explotan nuestros recursos.
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@TheCordobear @loboestas27 Calling them squatters and threatening to deport them is not respectful of their interest. It’s a form of genocide you psychopath. This is exactly why we cannot give them into your power.
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Oso ⚡ 🇦🇷@TheCordobear·
@WhapXI @loboestas27 Estás confundido. No nos importan los okupas ni son sus tierras. Solamente queremos que ellos sean felices en su tierra, en Londres, y tengamos paz entre los dos países.
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@loboestas27 The same UN that ruled that any transfer of sovereignty of the islands to Argentina would have to be with the consent of the population? That UN? Are we talking of the same body here?
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
La ONU es la que dice que el principio de autodeterminación de los pueblos no corre en la causa Malvinas, no los argentinos, lo lamento cerdito ingles, tus mentiras no sirven de nada.
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@loboestas27 This caveat to international law doesn’t exist except in the Argentinian mind. You tell yourselves the kelpers have no rights to justify what the rest of the world will see as a crime against humanity if you ever get to deport them and steal their homes.

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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@Doreilina @Elma17_10 Precisely. The Falklands are the ancestral home of the Falkland Islanders. They are the only people whose voice matters. Not someone in Buenos Aires. Not someone in London. Someone in Port Stanley.
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Elma🇦🇷@Elma17_10·
"Todos los que no son argentinos estan en contra de Argentina" aja si
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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@loboestas27 This caveat to international law doesn’t exist except in the Argentinian mind. You tell yourselves the kelpers have no rights to justify what the rest of the world will see as a crime against humanity if you ever get to deport them and steal their homes.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
@WhapXI El derecho a la autodeterminación no corre porque se trata de una población implantada. Ustedes ocupan de manera ilegal un territorio desde 1833 que nos pertenece a los argentinos, explotan nuestros recursos, depredan nuestro mar, ustedes son los invasores.
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Unidad Básica Ghostface Killah
No son un par de islas pobladas "al azar". Son islas que estan dentro de nuestra plataforma continental, dentro de nuestro mar. Nadie nos prometio nada, nos pertenecen porque son nuestras, UK esta ocupando ilegalmente las islas desde 1833 con una población implantada.
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@clockstiqqun argentinians don't even argue for their fascist government's esoteric ancestral claim to a random pair of islands populated entirely by englishmen because the spanish empire promised it to them 3000 years ago they just look at you like this

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whap 🌹@WhapXI·
@_glorianas It’d be a purely political stunt. There is no diaspora waiting to return to homes in Port Stanley. At best life stays the same for the Kelpers. At worst they get forcibly deported to a country 13,000km away and their homes and property given to random spaniards.
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eva@_glorianas·
what would argentina even do with the falklands, don't you guys have many other things to worry about?
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