William Oakley
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The toddler tantrum reaction to cameras not flashing - like it's supposed to be a courtesy to warn speeding drivers they've been caught - is just ridiculous.
We have a law-breaking epidemic.
Out of every 20 drivers only 3 obey rhe limit.
BBC London@BBCLondonNews
High-tech speed cameras that do not flash when they detect speeding drivers and do not need road markings are to be trialled in parts of London as part of plans to reduce road casualties. bbc.in/4sg5qHX (📸 TfL/EPA)
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@WillTatton @algarve32c @7Kiwi pointless further discussion if you are going to be dishonest, you can lie all you want but every modern commentator will point to high energy costs
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This will go down in history as one of the worst acts of self harm - blowing up power stations. Since then global coal consumption has risen. Nobody is following this energy masochism leadership.
Rt Hon Lord Alok Sharma@AlokSharma_RDG
The demolition @SSE’s Ferrybridge coal power plant today was a symbolic moment for me It demonstrates that change is possible But to limit global temperature rises and keep 1.5C within reach, the whole world needs to plan to consign coal power to history #COP26
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@DavidB22066 @JulesBywaterLee @7Kiwi Same with Jackdaw.
You think the wind doesn't blow at night? We already have plenty electricity at night, it costs pennies.
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@WillTatton @JulesBywaterLee @7Kiwi Whens its producing you mean, also Miliband shouldn't calculate 15 million on the maximum output of any renewables projects because it'll rarely achieve this especially at night.
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@MorganE07969703 @algarve32c @7Kiwi We've already established that the reasons for industrial decline are not energy prices.
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@WillTatton @7Kiwi ok no worries
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@MorganE07969703 @7Kiwi Where in that article does it say anything about needing coal again? It's an article about how our grid is hopelessly out of date and needs a massive modernisation.
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@PeterDClack And those currents are put at risk by climate change, think about that.
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@WillTatton The cycles of warm and cool ocean currents are the heartbeat of the planet. Why is this relevant? Because otherwise, northern Europe would have a climate like Greenland! Think about that.
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The Earth operates on oceanic time scales - with cycles lasting a 1,000 years.
The oceans are the thermal heat engine for the world. They contain 91% of all retained heat energy, the atmosphere holds maybe 1 or 2%. Water is 1,000 times heavier and denser than air and this makes it the world's thermal great storage battery. They also contain 86% of the world's entire carbon reservoir, the atmosphere has only 1-2%.
Yet somehow, a trace gas has been cast as the control knob for the world's climate and CO2 levels. The oceans are the driving force for the movement of all heat energy, the rise and fall of CO levels and all clouds and water vapour in the air. Water vapour is the most important gas for retaining heat energy in the atmosphere, up to 4% of the atmosphere in tropical and temperate regions. CO2 is 0.042%.
While the oceans are the engine room, the mainstream argument is that atmospheric composition acts as the thermostat, or valve, that regulates how much of that solar energy stays in the system versus escaping to space.

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@MorganE07969703 @7Kiwi Oh please, every country in Europe has had industrial decline, even those with really cheap electricity.
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@WillTatton @7Kiwi Now do a graph on Germanys energy costs and its industrial decline
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@WillTatton @algarve32c @7Kiwi Because this act prevents us acting in out national interests
We now have the highest electricity prices in the world
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@MorganE07969703 @7Kiwi I can't really imagine what those circumstances might be.
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@WillTatton @7Kiwi I refer you once more to the cost of electricity in the UK,the last time we used coal was in 2023.
lets hope the circumstances dont arrive when coal would be useful to have, because thats what it is. A hope. Not a plan, A hope
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@MorganE07969703 @7Kiwi The decline is really quite rapid in those countries, now China and India are following suit we will see big changes.

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@WillTatton @7Kiwi I think over 80 countries still use coal, including Japan and Germany and even if it is in decline the point is it is still being used in huge amounts around the world
And we still have the highest electricity prices in the world
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@WillTatton @Furq266400 @PeterDClack The atmosphere of Venus is composed of approximately 96.5% carbon dioxide by volume...Earth's CO2 is 0.042%
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@algarve32c @WillTatton @7Kiwi The problem all stems from possibly the most disastrous piece of legislation (in a long list) ever passed by Parliament, the Climate Change Act and unless this is repealed we are screwed I think
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@Manxkipper1 @Electroversenet Where? We don't have vast areas in the UK?
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@WillTatton @Electroversenet Maybe check out isotropic readjustment to put your mind at rest. Sea level rise in the South east is entirely predictable while non existent in the north west. And yes, warmer weather is better for everyone, so chin up. Imagine the vast areas that will open up to agriculture.
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365 years of temperature data from central England, the world's longest running climate record, show no trend.
Despite a six-fold rise in population and a surge in CO2, January temperatures have barely shifted since 1600. Likewise for July, the hottest month of the year, temperatures are virtually unchanged.
Even during the coal-fired Industrial Revolution there was no sudden spike. The warmest winters on record occurred in the 1700s, the 1800s, and the early 1900s, long before modern emissions.
Any warming appears slow and natural, with the slight modern uptick likely linked to two factors: 1) the urban heat island effect, and 2) Earth's gradual recovery from the Little Ice Age.
If carbon dioxide truly controlled the climate, the CET record would shoot upward on the right. It does not.
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@7Kiwi Not only is that data out of date, but it's total coal consumption, not electricity generation like you referenced in your original post. Even then you can see the consumption has clearly plateaued for the last ~20 years. In the bit the graph doesn't show, consumption has fallen.
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@DavidB22066 @JulesBywaterLee @7Kiwi Miliband so far this year has got enough extra renewables to heat 15 million homes. That's almost 10 time more than Jackdaw.
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@ArabDas31313 @robprogressive You have to weigh the amount vs the likelihood. It's just like any other risk.
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@WillTatton @robprogressive You dont think its more important to verify £24k than £30? I certainly would.
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My friend tried to withdraw £20k from his high street bank & their response was shocking
For 30 years he’s has been a loyal customer of this major bank
He called to withdraw the money & they said no, you have to come into the branch
He went into the branch & asked asked to withdraw the £20k and they asked 'what it’s for'?
He said ’none of your business, it’s my money’
They said ‘unless you can tell us exactly what the money is for, you cannot withdraw it'
This should shock & terrify you, because your own money isn’t even yours anymore
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@ArabDas31313 @robprogressive Because they are totally different transactions. At the garage, you are doing a card present transaction with a trusted physical business. The car dealership isn't exactly likely to vanish overnight.
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@robprogressive Hahahahhaha. I paid £24k for my car, cash. Used my card in the terminal at the garage, not one eyelid batted by anyone. Went to change my insurance for it, £30 difference, but I had to verify the £30 payment via the banking app before it went through.....
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@bren_geo @PeterDClack The daft bit is, his own graph shows that he knows it doesn't take 1000 years.
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@PeterDClack It’s because a warmer atmosphere leads to warmer surface water. This doesn’t take 1000 years.
The deeper water will be warmer than 11000 years ago as there’s less ice to melt (which has low salinity & sinks) than there was then.
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