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@LittleMmerari1 @5SolasMissy Of course scripture says differently We receive Holy Spirit after repentance and baptism Acts2:38. Acts 2:41 those that were baptized were added to the church 1peter3:21- baptism now saves you Mark16:16- Jesus tells us he that believes and is baptized will be saved.

@Yankee1399 @5SolasMissy Im not stating water baptism isn’t important, we get baptized because we are saved not to be saved. The only baptism that saves us is the baptism of the Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 12:13), He seals us & guarantees our salvation (2 Cor 5:5, 2 Cor 1:22, Eph 1:14)

we receive the promised Spirit through faith, not through water

@LittleMmerari1 @5SolasMissy The pouring out of the Holy spirit happened twice in NT. It was a promise to the apostles in Acts 1 proclaiming salvation to the Jews and again to the gentries in Acts 10. Peter confirms they can’t refuse the water to them and ordered them to be baptized.

@Yankee1399 @5SolasMissy scripture teaches us you’re saved and sealed with the Holy Spirit once you believe in the gospel of Jesus Christ (Eph 1:13-14). Cornelius believed in God, and was baptized in the Holy Spirit before being told to be baptized in water. (Acts 10:44-45).

@LittleMmerari1 @5SolasMissy We receive the Holy Spirit at baptism. Acts 2:38 conversions in Acts call out water for many. Ephesians 4:4 tells us there is one baptism. God chose water as the medium we are buried in. This corresponds with Jesus death burial resurrection. Roman’s 6:3-10

@Yankee1399 @5SolasMissy The Holy Spirit is the divine agent that cleanses us, washes us and purifies us (Ezek 36:25–27, Titus 3:5, 1 Cor 6:11). In the OT water is used figuratively of spiritual cleansing (Ezek 36:25, Psalm 51:7). The NT also uses water as a figure of the new birth Titus 3:5, Ephe 5:26

@Truth_matters20 John3:5 Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God

Most people know of Jesus. Very few actually know Him. You must be born again.

@5SolasMissy Relying on Christ means keeping his commandments John 14:15-If you love Me, you will keep My commandments John12:48-He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.

It’s ironic.. those who hold to faith alone, trusting in Christ’s finished work and that He bore the full punishment for their sins, are accused of having nothing more than intellectual faith, aka the faith of demons. But really think about it.. Simply believing facts about Jesus isn’t saving faith. Even demons believe that Jesus exists and believe facts about him, but they haven’t put their trust in Him. Saving faith is trusting in Him.. it’s resting in what He accomplished, not what we contribute. Hebrews says faith is the assurance of things hoped for… yet some will call assurance a sin. In reality, it’s not faith alone that’s merely intellectual, it’s any belief that knows about Christ but won’t rely on Him. It’s the ones who accuse the assured who are the ones with only intellectual faith

@Truth_matters20 Salvation is a gift.However God is the one who put conditions on receiving that gift. We see that throughout NT, Belief (faith), confession, repentance, baptism are all taught, explained, practiced. Obedience to his word is not optional. Rev22:18 warns us not to take away or add

Salvation is a gift, not something that we earn.

@Truth_matters20 End of Acts 2:37- Brethren, what shall we DO? Acts2:38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Obedience to ALL of Gods word is required.

Professing Christians who aren't actually saved are the hardest to deal with.

@DavidFischer Easy believism has taken over. Most I have encountered on here will ignore scripture if it doesn’t fit their preconceived ideas.

People really don’t like the word repent do they? It explains ALOT.

@DavidFischer At Pentecost in Acts 2:36-38 the people asked Peter and the apostles what shall we DO Peter responded 38 Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit

Is repentance required as part of salvation in Christ? In other words, to turn away from sin.

@5SolasMissy John 3:5-Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. You see this demonstrated in Acts 2 and throughout Acts. All must repent,be baptized and rec. Holy Spirit as Acts 2 :38 clearly explains

People receive the Spirit the moment they believe and that’s scripture

@5SolasMissy Again I have been blocked lol Jesus defined the gospel Again Mark 16:15-16 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation. 16 “He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has disbelieved shall be condemned

@RayLarson230801 I told you it is found in every word that is in the New Testament. Jesus and apostles commands, teachings, examples. All of it not taking away. You have been indoctrinated with false teaching.

@Yankee1399 This coming from someone who's doesn't know where the gospel of our salvation is located? Do you want me to tell you?

@RayLarson230801 Try it sometime using All of Gods word

@Yankee1399 2 Timothy 2:15 KJB 15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

@RayLarson230801 John 12:48-He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.

@Yankee1399 Nope, you dont know do you? Do you want me to tell you? Romans 2:16 KJB 16 In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to ->my gospel.<-

@RayLarson230801 You are twisting Gods eyes to your own destruction. Ignoring what doesn’t fit and twisting to fit.

@Yankee1399 Its literally the post your replying to smh 1 Corinthians 1:17 🤦‍♂️

@RayLarson230801 Jesus saysdifferently- Mark 16:16- he that believes (faith) and is baptized shall be saved. It is not works but obedience. Believing is a work John 6:29

@Yankee1399 We are not under a faith plus works gospel, its grace by faith alone Ephesians 2:8-9 KJB 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

@RayLarson230801 It is found in all of Gods word. Not cherry picking your way through the New Testament. Every word is spirit inspired.

@Yankee1399 @5SolasMissy Its odd you believe in your works over Jesus Christ of Nazareth finished work on the cross. Yet you still dont know where the "gospel of our salvation" is found. How can you be saved and sealed without knowing?

@RayLarson230801 I do thoroughly and ask if it. You need to take all of scripture into account. Paul said he was sent to preach, that was his primary job. He did not say baptism was to be done away with. You have listened to false doctrine too long

@Yankee1399 @5SolasMissy Yes he is, as for you, you need to study scripture.. 1 Corinthians 1:17 KJB 17 ->For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:<- not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.

@RayLarson230801 @5SolasMissy Sorry John 3:5- water and spirit Acts 2:38- water and spirit

@RayLarson230801 @5SolasMissy Also Matthew 3:5- water and spirit Acts 2:38- water and spirit