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@FactcheckIslam @btbsoco i hate to break it to you.. there is zero scholarly consensus saying that.. i think you should change your AI provider or scholarship indexing engine. do you know what scholarly consensus means?

@_HavenR @btbsoco It s scholarly consensus that none of the 4 gospels are eye witness. It s not a controversial view

If you deny the Trinity, you end up with a different Jesus - and that is why the Trinity is central; and issue no Christian should compromise on!

@emurason @omzzz85 @GodLogic_GL lol. you sound like QAnon

@_HavenR @omzzz85 @GodLogic_GL In its current form, the church is built upon two individuals: one who denied Jesus three times and another who claims to have heard his voice and become devoted to him despite never having seen him in his life. Moreover, nearly half of the New Testament was written by the latter

Muslims wish Muhammad never said this 😂 They whine all day about Jesus dying for our sins, and then turn around to see their prophet teaching that Allah will rescue Muslims from Hell by placing their sins onto Jews and Christians. Sources: Sahih Muslim 2767a (mentions the rescue from Hell), Sahih Muslim 2767d (seen below).

@FactcheckIslam @btbsoco perhaps you should provide more context to this screen grab? is it a scholars view?

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@FactcheckIslam @btbsoco We believe it is John the apostle that wrote the book of John. He reffers to himself in John 21:24. "This is the disciple who testifies to these things and who wrote them down. We know that his testimony is true". what concrete evidence proves this verse to be wrong?

@_HavenR @btbsoco 1. The gospel of john is nowhere near to be an eyewitness account, it is anonymous 2. The I AM in greek does not work in armaic / hebrew, it s simply a declaratif statement. 3. Yes, because this story is a very important story, not some obscure detail that mark, mathew luke miss

@maria_axkem @GodLogic_GL how do you know that when mohammed said a false prophet would die of a severed aorta he wasnt also referring to the 'feeling' or even the metaphor of a severed aorta?

@_HavenR @GodLogic_GL Prophet lived for yrs after the poisoning conquered his enemies and perfected the religion.A severed aorta.kills in seconds not 4yrs.Stick to ur Greek Tragedy and leave the linguistics to people who actually understand the difference between a medical report and a poetic metaphor

Because Quran 69:44-47 says if he lied about his "revelation", his aorta would be severed. And according to Dawud 4512 / Bukhari 4428, he died due to his aorta being severed. So he died the death of a false prophet.

@maria_axkem @GodLogic_GL By the way bart Erhmann agrees that the crucifixion DID occur. do you agree that it occured just because bart erhman a bible scholar says so? coz if you agree with his critique of Bible you must agree with the crucifixion and that makes mohammed a liar

@_HavenR @GodLogic_GL u claim we appeal to distant allusions yet u're the one following a book that your own top scholars like Bart Ehrman admit is75%Forgery and anonymous writings pretending to be Apostles.Even the resurrection account in the ending of Mark was ADDED later by scribes to fix the story

@maria_axkem @GodLogic_GL whose own top scholars? for every bart erhman there are three scholars that disagree with him. D you know what Yasir qhadi says about yur hadiths and perfect preservatin narrative. is hee right just because he is a ttop islamic scholar?

@FactcheckIslam @btbsoco wow thats a lot of objections packed together.. 1. He likely made that Ehyeh statement in aramaic or hebrew, john an eye witness reports it in greek. so what? 2. is there a standard that all gospels must report everything the other gospels report? your objections are invalid

@_HavenR @btbsoco I just told you he never said that, he spoke aramaic, the phrase makes no sense in aramaic, and because it s such a grandiose story, mark mathew and luke dont report it, the Jesus of John is a legendary greek Jesus

@maria_axkem @GodLogic_GL but you guys appeal to far more distant allusions to mohammed in the bible to try to prove he is in the bible as he suggested. this case of the refeerence to his arta looks to me like a very clear case of prophecy fulfilled.

@GodLogic_GL If you think a metaphor proves he’s a false prophet, then explain why Jesus (pbuh) cried out 'My God, why have you forsaken me?' (Matthew 27:46). According to your own logic, does that mean God failed him? 🙄

@FactcheckIslam @btbsoco The argument is usually Jesus never said 'i am God worship me" But he called himself I AM, (John 8:58) Jews understand that phrase to be God (Ehyeh). they wanted to stone him for it in the revelation of John, Rv 5:13 every creature worships the Father and Christ.

@_HavenR @btbsoco The historical Jesus never said, and he was a pure monotheist.

@Yajsoe @Acts17David @muslimorthodoxy So by your concession Iblis stayed in mohammeds nose every night? while he slept? 😂 oh my gosh 😂😂😂 we had always known muhammed was a demoniac. this disproves islam 100% think about it. if you slept 8hrs with iblis, what revelation will you give the next day? heresy,

@_HavenR @Acts17David @muslimorthodoxy Okay, i'm honest and will concede that. That is literally no problem because The devils are jinns, and that's how they are created 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️. This doesn't disprove islam 🤣🤣. Condemn jesus the pedophile and murderer please as i showed you honesty .

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@abrahameduc @DanBurmawy this is the view that makes it 100% clear and incontrovertible that mohammed spokes as the edevil gave him utterance. A man who gave himself lee ways to do as he pleases expects God to bring himself down to their standards and judge them. you cant match Gods holiness.

@DanBurmawy It’s well known that the Prophet (ﷺ) said deeds alone grant no one into Paradise and that can only be done by Allāh’s Mercy. Christianity permits one to evade accountability for their own deeds by believing someone else’s blood absolves their sin. Pure falsehood.

When you argue with Muslims about why you’re a Christian, don’t waste your time pointing to Muhammad’s sexual immorality or violent legacy. And don’t reduce Christianity to Jesus’ exemplary moral life. That’s not why we are Christians. We are not Christians because “our guy” was nicer than “their guy.” We are Christians because of the Gospel. What does that mean? It means Christianity isn’t primarily about ethics, rules, or examples. It is about sonship. Through Christ, we are adopted into God’s family. We cry, “Abba, Father.” Our relationship with God is rooted in love and secured by grace. Salvation is not earned; it is given. It is not transactional; it is relational, covenantal. It is not wages for service; it is a gift for faith. Islam can't offer this. Islam is transactional. The Muslim’s relationship to Allah is that of servant to master, slave to ruler, fearing punishment more than loving God.

@KyleGrimm366261 @btbsoco Yes i am in the belief, that when Peter said "You are the messiah the Son of the Living God", (Matthew 16:16) he meant it. jews believed that calling oneself the Son of God was equating the person with God. They tried to stone Jesus for saying same.

@_HavenR @btbsoco You have to be in the belief that Peter was written by Peter. I am not and have good reasons for it. The messiah does not mean god. The son of god does not mean god. There are Jews in antiquity who were referred to as such. Before, during, and after Jesus.

@Yajsoe @Acts17David @muslimorthodoxy if you agree that mohammed meant THE DEVIL stays in the upper part of your nose when you sleep, and conceed that, this speech is not from allah and it means muhammed was full of shit, then we can look at Deut 21 and layout your concerns about the chapter for me to address

@_HavenR @Acts17David @muslimorthodoxy Ash-Shaiṭān refers to the Devil or Satan Shayṭān refers to something Evil. I knew i would be giving free arabic lessons today. Idiot 🫵🤣🫵🤣 Condemn biblical jesus the pedo and murderer. Notice how i answered your questions and you dodge mine. Typical Polytheist

@KyleGrimm366261 @btbsoco Its understandable that even the disciples had a problem believing he was the messiah. But it's clear from the writings of John the beloved , the proclamation of Peter and it's clear they came around to the idea that he was the Son of God.

@_HavenR @btbsoco Ok so it’s not about being “right” in the sense that that view of Jesus divinity eventually lead to Christians deciding he was equal to god. The point is that it wasn’t so clear that even the earliest followers did not automatically believe this.

@AxadJimco @dmontetheno1 are you trying to denigrate the boss of muhammed? the same person muhammed called sinless and who never died and will come back t abolish muhammeds so called laws? you deceive yourself and you cant denigrate him. try harder. but we can say muhammed was zutted cause he was

@_HavenR @dmontetheno1 Was jesus raped by the roman soldiers according to mathew 27:27-28?

Idk if I can say this without everyone jumping to hate me, but this is not dawah, and I reject any attempt to associate this with our beloved ﷺ my frustration with the current state of Dawah is almost palpable.

@AxadJimco @dmontetheno1 are you a muslim?

Do you know whats also a fact ? Your filthy stupid man god getting gang raped by the roman soldiers according to mathew 27:27 its also in the internet , So you keep defending that filthy man god that got smoked on a stick while crying like he was getting raped by satan , fucking croslicker

@BeN_10Plus @Edenlife9 are you saying that allah couldnt use the word germ? he had to say 'satan' so is satan now a common germ? or was mohammed just bloviating as he usually did. saying a bunch of nonsense and atttributing it to a cave dwelling spirit

@_HavenR @Edenlife9 Plz don't do this hygiene It's Islamic

Good morning, Muslims. Now that you are awake, remember to obey allah. Muhammad said, "When you wake from sleep and perform ablution, wash your nose by putting water in it and blowing it out thrice, because Satan has stayed in the upper part of your nose all night."

@gassyfarts9 @Acts17David @muslimorthodoxy no it doesnt, but repentance is not about undoing every bad thing you'e ever done and its effect on people or the world around you. if that were the standard, you too are deserving of hell. its about making a u-turn so you can reconnect with God and restituting where you can

@_HavenR @Acts17David @muslimorthodoxy His repentance doesnt unrape that 13 year old