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@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee which is why i'm not debating you. you're unfathomably stupid.

I consider citing anything from any sort of figure with "authority" without being willing to discuss the methodology, the factors that may play into it being deceptive or the reasons it may not be an accurate representation of what it claims to represent as an "Appeal to authority".

Lemme get this straight… Republicans have control of Congress. Democrats introduce a clean bill to fully fund TSA. Republicans block it. Then they blame Democrats for long wait times at airports? This is on them.

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee it's literally not possible to "engage in a good fatih debate" against someone that thinks citing a survey is an appeal to authority.

Did we win a landslide election on "the biggest deportation operation this nation has ever seen"? The media is lying claiming that ICE is murdering people. Yes, they are being lied to. Yes, they are being manipulated. The polls reflect a fantasy world that does not exist. If you engage in a good faith debate I can prove it.

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee "You: "ICE is carrying out the will of the people." Me: *shows data that the people don't support ICE* You: "the people are misled and their opinions are irrelevant." you’ve argued yourself into a circle. you claim to represent a "will" that you simultaneously claim is fake.

@_King__Sloth_ @ArtCandee I understand that the people polled have been misled by the media. We voted for mass deportations. The media has lied and lied and lied about what ICE has been doing. If you are afraid or incapable of debating this then again you are wasting my time.

@grok @MindofMunitions @ArtCandee when someone tags you to "prove" their own definition of a logical fallacy is correct, are they not treating you as an "authority" whose opinion should override the need for objective evidence? is that not a textbook Appeal to Authority?

Polls report measured opinions from a sample—not an "expert" declaring policy truth as fact. That's data on sentiment (relevant to "public will" claims), not authority on what's correct. Yes, wording/sampling can skew results, so scrutiny of methodology is always fair game. But labeling citation of that data as "appeal to authority" misapplies the fallacy, which requires bypassing evidence for an expert's say-so on disputed reality. No L here—logic holds.

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee to be clear, your position is that you know "the will of the people" by magic, but actual statistical data from the people is "manipulated." you’ve created a logical circle where you are right by default and math is fake. that isn't an argument, that's you throwing a tantrum

@_King__Sloth_ @ArtCandee I'm sorry... polls/surveys do not equal facts* No, it's not the only relevant data. Polls/surveys are easily skewed using language to manipulate them.

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee because i'm not interesting in "having a discussion" that thinks citing data is an "appeal to authority"

@_King__Sloth_ @ArtCandee This is where you chose to continue replying but refusing to have a discussion about why they are wrong. x.com/MindofMunition…

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee if ICE were "doing the will of the people" then people would support them, but people don't. people overwhelmingly don't support ICE.

@_King__Sloth_ @ArtCandee You still have not proven they are not doing the will of the people (deporting all illegals). You still have not explained what they are doing wrong.

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee i'm also not citing a study, i'm citing a survey of americans. if the claim is "americans feel x way" then a poll of how americans feel is the only relevant data. an appeal to authority would be something along the lines of "ICE is good because the president said so"

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee to be perfectly clear, this is the claim that i'm refuting. you made the claim that ICE is "carrying out the will of the people" which is verifiably false. the majority of americans do NOT support ICE. x.com/MindofMunition…

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee because i did not engage with you about MY position. you made a claim, i refuted it with facts. that's it. you've now moved the goalposts.

@_King__Sloth_ @ArtCandee If it's bullshit then why are you refusing to have a discussion and defend YOUR position?

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee citing data is not an "appeal to authority". i did not engage with you to have some debate about whether or not we personally agree with ICE. we are not intellectual equals, you are significantly less intelligent than me. you made a claim, i refuted it with facts. that's it.

Survey data is irrelevant when I've already dismissed their opinions because of ignorance on the issue. They been misled. I am asking YOU to tell me YOUR issues with ICE. If you cannot articulate your own opinions and are only capable of "appeals to authority" (google the phrase) then you are wasting my time.

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee i do not give a fuck that you've fully accepted all of the bullshit that the government is feeding you about ICE, the absolute vast majority of people do not support ICE. your claim that ICE is "carrying out the will of the people" is verifiably false.

@MindofMunitions @ArtCandee what i think personally is entirely irrelevant. you made a claim, that ICE is "carrying out the will of the american people". i cited actual survey data showing that this was false. now you're trying to pivot this into some sort of pretend debate.

@chadpsualum @skumWgmi why not? also, you cannot acquire the skill to deal with idiots that think cheeseburgers and hamburgers with cheese are fundamentally different things by watching a 10 minute video.

@_King__Sloth_ @skumWgmi Ok. Skills you can acquire by watching a 10 minute video on how to clean the fryer doesn’t count.

Yes, a cashier at Starbucks SHOULD be able to afford rent, groceries, & bills on just that 1 paycheque alone. THAT'S WHAT JOBS ARE FOR.

@MindofMunitions @DerrPlat @ArtCandee i will remind you that i am simply citing statistics showing that ICE is not “carrying out the will of the people”, as you previously stated. yougov.com/en-us/articles…

@MindofMunitions @DerrPlat @ArtCandee 59% say that ICE should not be allowed to wear masks that hide their faces. 44% have NO confidence in ICE. 58% say that ICE uses excessive force.

@chadpsualum @skumWgmi not a single person “doesn’t have any skills”.

@_King__Sloth_ @skumWgmi Exactly. And you try to work as little as you can to get that amount. It’s all about leveraging your skills for that compensation. If you don’t have any skills you’ll have to work more for it.

@MindofMunitions @DerrPlat @ArtCandee i’m not talking about what percent of people want undocumented immigrants to be deported, i’m talking about what percent of people support what ICE is currently doing.

@_King__Sloth_ @DerrPlat @ArtCandee Ridiculous. 70% want all illegals deported, no exceptions. Do you understand what's going to happen if you get what you want and democrats give the illegals amnesty?