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Katılım Ekim 2017
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Peppur@_PepperSteak_·
You do know custom fabric banner and Philippine flag are not mutually exclusive. Flags are manufactured fabric banners. Printing the faces during production instead of adding them later does not automatically change what the finished item depicts: the Philippine flag’s distinctive design, not merely patriotic colours. Your defence rests on renaming it and assuming “custom-made” creates a loophole. It doesn’t automatically exempt the design. RA 8491 prohibits adding figures, pictures, designs, or imprints to the flag and also regulates representations of it. At minimum, nothing you cited proves that incorporating the faces during production suddenly makes it acceptable. Chicago may affect jurisdiction or enforcement, but it does not change what the object represents or make flag etiquette irrelevant. And before you get ahead of yourself, my main point has always been simple: this is wrong, regardless of which fandom did it. Some Blooms did something similar before, and OFC and other Blooms had to issue mass call-outs and reminders. So this is not selective outrage; it is about applying the same standard and demanding the same accountability.Calling it a “custom banner” is not proof. It is wordplay used to avoid the actual issue.
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This is sad, but I have to commend the consistency in poor judgment and poorer etiquette - from actions that contradict the very “OPM rise” they claim to champion, to discrediting women through fake news, and now disrespecting the Philippine flag representing the same country their idols proudly carry on the global stage. It would have been so easy to admit na baka nadala lang sa excitement, acknowledge the lapse, apologise, and learn proper flag etiquette. Pero hindi - ginawang defence ang “nasa ibang bansa naman,” as though basic respect ends the moment you pass immigration. Very global ang venue, pero iniwan sa Pilipinas ang basic flag etiquette. Patriotism is not something you switch off at immigration. Pero sige, instead of accountability: LAWLESS IT IS.
jiro 虹色@last_Solsticex

What to expect sa fandom na hindi alam na this is strictly prohibited?

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Yow, what a day! As a casual fan, silent lurker, what started from a mix of curiosity, boredom, and annoyance at my biggest pet peeve—cultish fandom behavior—turned into a somewhat full day of discourse and bardagulan. Nakakamiss din palang maging patolera paminsan-minsan. Fun din pala, and somehow a weird but nice way to connect with some Blooms. Refreshing to know that mental gymnastics is still a thriving sport and that “those” kinds of people still exist. Exhausting, entertaining, and oddly insightful. 😂
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Andami nila, pero hindi naman lahat—ayokong mahulog tayo sa hasty generalization. May iilang maayos kausap at kaya namang umabot sa understanding. You can see one sa replies dito sa post ko. Honestly, exhausting kasi hindi intellectually stimulating kausap, pero nakakatawa rin dahil minsan mapapaisip ka—totoo palang may ganitong klaseng mag-reason.
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@neri0831 @napingkaw @pauerrchirp1819 My god, yun na ’yon? Kapag wala nang matinong rebuttal, low-level trolling na lang? Mag-stan na lang kayo quietly kaysa sumagot nang sumagot na walang substance—nakakapangit lang kayo ng fandom ninyo. take your cheap trolling somewhere else.
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IXTH@BiasDirekLauren·
The desperation to salvage your pride is honestly entertaining. 😂 Hindi ba kayo proud sa crowd ng idol n'yo? Kasi parang mas proud pa kaming Blooms sa achievement nila kaysa sa inyo. 🤭 We showed the actual crowd. You showed... a stolen video from another group's crowd? 😭😂 Grabe, nahihiya ba kayo sa sarili n'yong crowd, o mas gusto n'yo lang manghiram? 😂
supermackulet🌺🎡☀@cooletzzzzzzz

they even grabbed a video of BoyNextDoor's Lolla perf and crowd last year and edit it with their idol's audio to make it look like it's theirs. 10% on comsec are saying it's not SB/19 and the 90%? mga uto-uto for believing it was their faves with that kind of crowd 😂

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@bossbitchbp Yung pinaka-nakakapikon? Sa unang tingin, “Okay, OFCs called it out. Good this is a good example!” Tapos yung caption pala ang tunay na plot twist. Akala mo may na enlightened sa facts, mental gymnastics pala.
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Ash@bossbitchbp·
Di ko na sana papansin pero they keep on using our announcements for their fake narratives. My dms are open po for discussion if you wanna know what happened and bakit may ganyang announcement. If ayaw, you can reply under this post.
KenTellPero OT5|🐣🍓🌽🌭🍡@RachelL1963

Bakit may utos ng pag de delete? Oi, mga bloomtard, may nag call out ba sa inyo nito? Mas una pa pala kayo, tas ngayon kung makapag aklas kayo parang mga law abiding citizen ah? Eto nga binebenta pa sa etzy eh yung sa SB, personal fan made. Kapal ng fandom ng @BINI_ph! Hahaha!!

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Peppur@_PepperSteak_·
@neri0831 @Miksee1 If your referring to how you responded, i 100% agree with you 😄
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@neri0831 @pauerrchirp1819 I love how intellectually lazy that response is. Instead of explaining your own point, you defaulted to “Google mo tanga.” Low effort, high confidence, zero substance. Peak intellectual discourse. 😄
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Peppur@_PepperSteak_·
Printing someone’s face on the U.S. flag also goes against the U.S. Flag Code’s etiquette, so yes, it should be called out too. Thanks for proving the principle is consistent: modifying a national flag is wrong regardless of the fandom. But here’s where your argument falls apart. You’re trying to prove “selective justice,” yet if you actually widened your search, you’d find plenty of posts—including OFCs and Blooms at the time—calling it out and reminding people not to do it. So what’s selective? Nobody was saying it was okay. We called it out too. The difference is simple: calling out a wrong act is accountability. Defending it after knowing it’s wrong is making excuses. Next time, strengthen your argument. Right now it’s just, “your side did it too.” That doesn’t refute my point—it actually reinforces it. If modifying a national flag is wrong, then it’s wrong regardless of which fandom does it. The real question is who acknowledged it was wrong, and who kept defending it even after knowing better.
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Peppur@_PepperSteak_·
Ang kapal daw ng fandom, pero ang mismong resibo niya shows na kino-call out, pinapadelete, at hindi dine-defend ng Blooms ang mali. Hindi mo makokontrol ang bawat fan—but you can choose whether to correct them or manufacture excuses for them. “Fan-made” is not a moral exemption, just as “for sale” is not an excuse. Parehong mali. The difference is accountability: ours was called out and taken down; yours is still being justified. Salamat sa pag-post ng ebidensiyang sumisira sa sarili mong argumento.
KenTellPero OT5|🐣🍓🌽🌭🍡@RachelL1963

Bakit may utos ng pag de delete? Oi, mga bloomtard, may nag call out ba sa inyo nito? Mas una pa pala kayo, tas ngayon kung makapag aklas kayo parang mga law abiding citizen ah? Eto nga binebenta pa sa etzy eh yung sa SB, personal fan made. Kapal ng fandom ng @BINI_ph! Hahaha!!

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Yeah. Aminado ako, nasa mood lang akong pumatol today. Pero after a few exchanges, narealize ko na hindi lahat ng discussion naghahanap ng katotohanan. Yung iba, naghahanap lang ng paraan para hindi umamin na mali sila. Ang ending, ikaw lang ang napapagod. Grabe ang mental gymnastics!
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Peppur@_PepperSteak_·
@ultpinkcey Napagod ako magreply ng julitjulit. 🙃
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Peppur@_PepperSteak_·
I get your point, and I agree that’s probably why many people don’t see anything wrong with it. But I think this is exactly where we, as Filipinos, have to be mindful. Just because it’s legal or common elsewhere doesn’t mean we should lower our own standard of respect for our national flag. Intent explains why it happened-it shouldn’t become the excuse to keep defending it once people already know better. I guess that’s also where the discussion i had with others starts going in circles and the original point gets lost.
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Tito_Atin 🍎@CPamatmat38641·
@_PepperSteak_ That’s reality, businesses and merch still selling under foreign companies..and since it’s a common practice most people not aware na disrespectful ang gamitin ang PH flag…in their mind it’s proud representation of being Pinoy…
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@pauerrchirp1819 @neri0831 Reply lang ng reply pero yung reply mo walang laman. Why? Guiltu of the very same accusation mo sa blooms? Lmao. Read your replies puro ingay pero walang substance or walang laman in your own words. Cant even rebut properly.
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chirp 🐐🍭@pauerrchirp1819·
@_PepperSteak_ @neri0831 excuses excuses🥱 why? guilty of the very same accusation na tin-throw mo sa a’tin? lmao! sabi nga nila maingay ang lata pag walang lama. yeah maingay ka nga, maingay ka lang.. walang laman 😂
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Omg, in a sea of seemingly bot-like replies and circular arguments, this is actually something I can agree with. I agree. If people genuinely didn’t know, then education is the answer. I also understand that the way I worded my post would naturally push buttons and that’s fair. But my point remains the same. I just hope you can also see, from the replies to my post alone, why that education becomes difficult. Instead of “We didn’t know,” or “We’ve already spoken to the person,” it became excuse after excuse for something that was already established as wrong. I think conversations would’ve gone very differently if more of the responses looked like that. Accountability is something every fandom has to work on.. including ours
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Tito_Atin 🍎@CPamatmat38641·
@_PepperSteak_ Again it’s not prohibited in US. I agree with the respect context. Then you should also accept so many Filipinos doesn’t know that law dahil Daming merch dito dahil Hinde nga bawal. It’s more on principle vs intentions. So all we can do is educate but we cant force them….
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Peppur@_PepperSteak_·
Sayang talaga. Sinadya ko pang i-breakdown nang mahaba para hindi na maligaw yung punto, pero ang nireply mo pa rin yung argumentong matagal ko nang sinagot. 🤣 Bago ka mag-reply, siguraduhin mo munang naiintindihan mo yung nire-rebut mo. Kasi sa ngayon, sarili mong strawman ang kausap mo..
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The irony? Habang sinasabihan mo kaming “wag maging bias,” ikaw mismo ang ayaw pag-usapan ang accountability. Kung hanggang “pareho lang mali” ang analysis mo, para mo na ring sinasabing wala nang pakialam kung may umaamin sa mali o may patuloy na nagde-defend dito. Ganyan nagsisimulang mawala ang accountability.
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If that’s true, then good. That’s exactly what should’ve happened. But that’s not the point. The criticism isn’t whether someone privately called it out in a GDM. It’s that the public response was dominated by people defending it instead of simply acknowledging the mistake. Thats where my criticism is aimed at. Private accountability doesn’t erase public messaging. If the first thing people saw was “nasa ibang bansa naman,” then that’s naturally what people will react to 😀
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