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@LIMBOLIBRARY When you say every measure I sure hope it doesn't include writing because nah.

it enrages me to no end how popular gortash is because ketheric and orin are just better villains in every measure

@AnnicaDraws @milmilksss My personal hc is that he stumbled into Bane worship along the same time he started his weapons trade. He used to have issues with the Zhentarim I think but then he probably became a baneite and they were cool w him (they also serve Bane).

@AnnicaDraws @milmilksss All the gnome said was that Gortash somehow escaped, it's not stated that it was w a god's help I think. Some Chosen straight up just randomly get Chosen before even serving lmao so I've heard that as another theory too... But I fully believe he'd be ok w dethroning Bane lol

So Gortash made a deal with Zariel, but how did he become Banes chosen? We know why Kethric is chosen and how, same with Orin...I wonder if it was before or after him and durge stole thr cown?

@milmilksss He became Chosen with Durge around the same time he shared his plan to steal the Crown with Durge. He still hadn't decided he'd be using it on an Elder Brain, he decided on that when he found some notes about Elder Brains during the heist for the Crown.

@AnnicaDraws @milmilksss The serving Bane thing. I mean I know when he becomes a Chosen, it's at the same time as Durge supposedly, in a dream somewhere around the time he shares his plans for stealing the Crown of Karsus w him. But when he began working for Bane is not known.

@_cacadoodle_ @milmilksss the slavery thing or the chosen thing? o:

@AnnicaDraws @milmilksss I don't think we have any of this information in-game actually but I like it as a hc yeah makes sense

@milmilksss He was Bane's chosen before the deal, he was a slave to Raphael actually, his parents sold him off cuz he was a smart little guy. To save himself he pledges his service to Bane Honestly?? Gortash is the single most well written character in this entire game he is SO fascinating

@milmilksss I don't think he did for Myrkul before being chosen, didn't Myrkul raise him from the dead and offer him to be his Chosen AND get his daughter resurrected as a bonus. Honestly he won the lottery.

@AnnicaDraws yeah yeah but how did he become his chosen? what did he do to earn his favor as a chosen? Kethric does a lot to show his worship for myrkul and shar. and Orin is obviously murdering in his name and makes a sport out of it. i just wonder what Gortash does to connect and how

@chuxia6912 @MojaveCazador So you don't get this dialogue if you didn't start off as a paladin? I've been trying to get it but no success but it might be cuz I started off as storm sorcerer and then added paladin levels after Alfira/Quil.

@MojaveCazador Haha, actually what I was thinking is: if Durge starts as a Paladin right from the beginning, then when you break your oath and chat with the Oathbreaker Knight, you learn that you two have met before. It's not your first oathbreak, and it's not your first time being a Paladin.

When Durge was still a Paladin…

@FrogeLole @notdebbyroar Women will instead be stripped of any right to their opinion as soon as they break down emotionally.

@notdebbyroar Being emotional for any reason is automatically assumed to be a feminine trait, which is sexist and annoying, but has meaningful differences. Women will never be stripped of their femininity for crying. Men WILL be stripped of their masculinity, though. The effects are different

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@piss_gaming How is he written since you have such a strong opinion on it lmao He shows nothing but compassion and patience otherwise, aside from his dislike for general villainy and human exploitation, as well as drows for personal trauma reasons.

@_cacadoodle_ @bloodst0rm__ Yea but it's not out of character for him at all, they removed it cus they didn't want to make you chose between 2 companions but nothing in that scene goes against how he's written so it's a perfect example about what's so icky about him

Halsin gives me the ick so bad

@kitsuoba @bloodst0rm__ Also also also the fighting between druids, harpers etc and Ketheric's forces happened (in-game stated) after he turned to Shar which the game claims happened AFTER Isobel's death so atp this text doesn't even make sense w the other lore in-game if it still is in it.

@kitsuoba @bloodst0rm__ Also this says the killer (presumably of Isobel?? Not clear) led the druids. Halsin canonically was not leading the druids at the time?? He took control when the previous leader died and led them OUT of the curse. And the spear mentions the last owner dying. So...

@kitsuoba @bloodst0rm__ Again. The spear is not related. Writings in the game where? And Halsin talks about abandoning the mission to resolve the curse, in order to move his people to safety. It was abandoned for WHATEVER reason and is not in current day canon.

@_cacadoodle_ @bloodst0rm__ The idea was not abandoned because Larian began to implant it in the game, the content was deleted like a lot of content (especially in act 3). But there is his spear, WRITINGS IN THE GAME, and Halsin talks to us about guilt. You are tiring

@kitsuoba @bloodst0rm__ No it literally means that. It's not in the game. It's not in the finished product. Therefore it's not in *the canon*.

@_cacadoodle_ @bloodst0rm__ Deleted content =/= not canon bruh

@kitsuoba @bloodst0rm__ What spear bruh. The actual meat and context of it is deleted content.

@_cacadoodle_ @bloodst0rm__ There is his spear in the game bruh And he says he did a horrible thing that he will remember all his life bruh and he says he feels responsible for the curses bruh

@JoeLongBalls @Unsung_MT He's whining about the active threat he's under and is trying to convince you to help free him from slavery gods forbid anyone asks for help in that situation lmao

@Unsung_MT I personally find it a little hard to be sympathetic of him when everyone in the party has some kind of daddy issue but he whines particularly loud about it

He already gives you a novel worth of his tragic fuckin backstory if you just do his quest lol, or talk to him like 4 times

@kitsuoba @bloodst0rm__ That's not canon bruh

@bloodst0rm__ The fact that he has no interaction with Isobel or Ketheric when it was HE who killed Isobel makes me angry. It may be a Larian skip but it pisses me off

@labXrat @bloodst0rm__ "his own personal goals" to save an entire region with a curse that's constantly spreading outwards??? Not like he forces you to do anything he just tags along and asks for any information you encounter that might be useful tf lmao

@bloodst0rm__ truth. his advances feel out of nowhere and way too pushy to me. He's also clearly just using the party as a vehicle through which to pursue his own personal goals, which feels kind of off given that everyone else is trying to survive a terminal disease he doesn't have lol

@piss_gaming @bloodst0rm__ It's a removed scene

@bloodst0rm__ That one removed scene where he forced you to chose between getting rid of him or Minthara when unlike him minthara has a parasite and will have her soul ripped apart and be turned into a mindflayer if she leaves just made me hate him so bad