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Davy Ben

@_davyben

Celebrity/Pop Culture Reporter • I’m not your therapist

The Rendezvous Katılım Şubat 2019
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
IMPACTFUL really?? Okay, let’s talk impact. Since you lot want to toe this line and suddenly act myopic over your “irrelevant” personal biases. I’ll be happy to give you at least 5✋: 1. I’ll start with arguably his biggest impact. For a fact, Chris Brown's return with the album F.A.M.E. in 2011, is by miles the most impactful ‘comeback’ case study in modern pop culture. After being effectively cancelled by the industry in 2009, he returned to win a Grammy for Best R&B Album. This wasn’t even about his fanbase. Chris Brown proved high-level talent could bypass traditional industry gatekeeping and public fallout. As polarizing as his personality is, there are not many artists that will survive that level of industry/media damnation and still go ahead to be the face of a mainstream genre more than a decade later, solely because of his craft. 2. Chris Brown is objectively one of the most (if not the most) impactful Western bridge for Afrobeats. His decade-long collaboration with the genre’s biggest stars helped provide the consistent global co-sign necessary for the genre to enter US radio and charts. He is the first and “only” American to win a Headies Award for his direct role in this movement. 3. Chris Brown served as the sole commercial bridge for the ‘triple-threat’ R&B archetype during a decade where the genre almost entirely pivoted to a stationary vibe. While peers moved toward ‘mood,’ CB evidently doubled down on MJ-level choreography. Critically, he remained the only male soloist in the 2010s whose music videos and tours were judged as much on choreography as on the music itself. His impact lies in the fact that for over 10 years, he was the only soloist operating at a stadium level who treated (and still treats) R&B as an elite physical sport. Additionally, CB was the first major A-list R&B star to move into the Hip-Hop lane as a legitimate peer, not just a hook man. The result spoke for itself. What he did then effectively saved R&B's commercial relevance during the 2010s. While traditional R&B was dying on the charts, Chris Brown’s hybrid style kept the genre in the clubs and on the Hot 100 by merging it with the dominant sound of Atlanta trap. Every ‘singing rapper’ or ‘rapping singer’ we know today is working within the space that Chris Brown aggressively made commercially viable. He didn't just make archetype popular; he built the bunker that R&B retreated into to survive the 2010s. If he hadn't merged R&B with Trap culture, R&B would’ve likely been relegated in the food-chain much like Neo-Soul was in the early 2000s. 4. Chris Brown was the first major artist to normalize the 'long-LP' format (beginning with the 45-track HBOAFM). Yes, while critics panned the length, it was an impactful industry move that exploited the mathematical relationship between track count and streaming certifications. This tactic of prioritizing volume to maximize 'album units' is now a standard blueprint used by mainstream stars like Drake, Morgan Wallen, and SZA to maintain chart dominance. By being the first to shatter the 40-track ceiling, CB effectively signalled the end of the tight 10-song R&B album era and forced the industry to recognize quantity as a primary driver of commercial quality in the streaming age. 5. Chris Brown is the first solo artist of the 21st century to have a song chart on the Billboard Hot 100 for 20 consecutive years (2005–2024). This is unarguable impact because it defies the standard industry shelf-life, especially for an artist who faced massive institutional blackballing (though largely self-inflicted). CB proved a superstar can survive and thrive at the highest level without a single corporate sponsor or institutional backing.
Jermain Jackson Gel@AllKeeks

Name one impactful thing Chris Brown has ever done in his career… IMPACTFUL

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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
@Leeo_da_vin Exactly! They say that because they don’t listen at all to his unreleased, his mixtapes and even his lengthy albums. That much is true. But it is also true that even when they attempt to listen, they might not appreciate the gems because it is buried inside the crowd.
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Keyonta Lee
Keyonta Lee@Leeo_da_vin·
@_davyben That it all sounds the same. But that literally doesn’t matter because nobody with actual ears thinks that
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
And this is perhaps the most honest admission I’ve seen. A huge number of Chris Brown’s fanbase is not listening for legacy. They’re listening for service. They want volume because volume means more of what they already love: more familiar cadences, more bedroom confidence….
Tyler Ralph@tylaralph

@_davyben That ain’t a chris brown album … His fans Are trained for 25+ Yes that would do more numbers but he don’t give a fuck.. that would straight up deny fans of 20 more great songs … I’ll deal with the 4 skips

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Davy Ben@_davyben·
@Leeo_da_vin Interestingly, these are the 2 highest rated albums by critics. For me X is his best work since F.A.M.E, but even so, there are fillers on it and on Exclusive. Not a lot, but they are there.
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Keyonta Lee
Keyonta Lee@Leeo_da_vin·
@_davyben X is literally a no skip album 😭 Exclusive is as well. That’s multiple lol.
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Davy Ben@_davyben·
@Leeo_da_vin Can you tell me the most common rhetoric about his music in the last maybe 10 years?
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Keyonta Lee
Keyonta Lee@Leeo_da_vin·
@_davyben No matter how great of an album CB puts out it will still be shitted on by his fans mostly and haters lol. He can put out a short album and it will still get shitted on. There’s literally no point.
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
@Leeo_da_vin No he doesn’t and I’m honest enough to admit this because it doesn’t negate the success he’s achieved. For starters, his last six albums have skips. If you’re not a genuine fan, you won’t go back and listen to it from top to bottom and vice-versa.
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Davy Ben@_davyben·
@Leeo_da_vin increases the chance of peak cohesion. One so undeniably great, it will reshape the entire genre or even force a trend. Whatever that will be is still up to him. But he has it in him, I just don’t know if he’s willing to say “look, let me try a different formula”.
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Davy Ben@_davyben·
@Leeo_da_vin His ceiling is putting out a no-skip magnum opus that will ensure his artistic immortality decades later. That’s the missing piece. However he wants to do that is up to him. I can only suggest a shorter project because logically, it reduces risk of a filler and….
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
@slaymaslayed @1800idkwhat @chrisbrown 2. Chris Brown is yet to deliver a universal classic. I’m a passionate fan but I’m brutally honest enough to admit he lacks a magnum opus. He makes up for that with massive hit singles but it still doesn’t erase the missing classic, which worries me.
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
@slaymaslayed @1800idkwhat @chrisbrown 1. I never discredited him. My pinned tweet rubbishes this claim. I pointed out his collaborations with Leon are standouts because they tend to bring out the best in him. I singled out “MUTT” because of his delivery outside his comfort zone. And I praised their relationship.
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
Unpopular opinion, but BROWN suffers from a serious lack of restraint. If Chris Brown cut the tracklist down to its strongest 9 tracks and strip back the heavy vocal processing, no one would be questioning its cohesion. There is a classic R&B record hidden under all that bloat.
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Davy Ben@_davyben·
@dadaking_ Sure. It can be as much as 15/16 songs I guess. I just stripped down to the ones I think are no skips
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Davy Ben@_davyben·
And because he’s profited massively off that loyalty for nearly two decades, he doesn’t feel any need to reach his ceiling because the floor is already more than enough for the people who matter most to him commercially. At the end of the day, it’s just business I guess.
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
…what they hear is make “less of what we love”. And they reject it instinctively. The issue is that our loyalty, the most genuine and most sustained artist loyalty in contemporary R&B, might be the very thing that removes his incentive to grow.
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
@1800idkwhat @slaymaslayed @chrisbrown If you check, besides this post and my review which dropped exactly 10 days ago, I haven’t said anything about the album since it dropped. I just stated my opinion in the initial post and I’m engaging with the responses. I’m not dragging it beyond here. It’s not necessary
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
@1800idkwhat @slaymaslayed @chrisbrown I don’t hate the project. I clearly said in my review it’s not a bad album. I only found it frustrating because of what it could be. We all know CB is a generational talent. That’s precisely why settling for good when greatness is within arm’s reach is painful to witness.
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Davy Ben
Davy Ben@_davyben·
@slaymaslayed @1800idkwhat @chrisbrown A hater doesn’t write 35 reasons why Chris Brown is the King of R&B. A hater doesn’t meticulously defend his impact. A hater doesn’t build an edit to show what the album could have been. A hater doesn’t spend weeks listening front to back & back to front before filing a word.
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BROWN@slaymaslayed·
@1800idkwhat @_davyben @chrisbrown He’s so damn annoying. He even said that Chris doesn’t have a classic album. He’s starting to sound like chris haters. I see why Tank dragged his ass last time
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