@DandyDuck118582 I haven't insulted or made any assumptions about you, but you have made one which you can't possibly know from behind a screen, so there is no point continuing with discussion in bad faith.
Have a nice day.
@GMAlexColovic Well, even with that said, his rating is better or similar to other players receiving invites, they just don't want to invite him specifically.
The fact that a player like Nepomniachtchi has to play an open tournament in view of lack of invites, clearly speaks in favour of the importance of your rating.
@DandyDuck118582 Mentally ill is a harsh phrase and carries its own connotations, its not officially used in the DSM or NICE either, they are classed as mental disorders.
The phrase mentally ill is more colloquial speech and usually if you are referring to someone with very significant problems.
@ap38409@shedreamspurpIe Again, you're showing a complete misunderstanding.
An illness typically being more serious than another doesn't make the other not an illness.
Do you understand that to be diagnosed with social anxiety disorder your fear has to be intense, long lasting and interfering with your
@DandyDuck118582 You have an optimistic view of current MH services if you think they are actually meeting such criteria.
Much of those diagnoses are being done by GPs and within few appointments, you said yourself you repeatedly received wrong diagnoses of depression, right?
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe Do you think its worth differentiating mild anxiety disorders from schizophrenia or that both of them should go under the same umbrella as 'mental illness'?
Eg someone with social anxiety being classed as mentally ill?
It needs to meet a level of impact, right?
@ap38409@shedreamspurpIe You fundamentally misunderstand what a mental illness is. Having a managed illness doesn't mean you don't have an illness.
People can have managed schizophrenia, they still have a mental illness.
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe A lot of people with anxiety disorder are very high functioning, many are very successful etc. They don't meet the criteria for being mentally ill.
That is why the DSM doesn't use that phrase anyway, they use disorder.
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe No... you said anxiety and depression are mental illnesses.
1 in 5 people report having said issues.. one fifth of the population is mentally ill?
You are grouping in people with mild anxiety disorder amongst schizophrenia, psychosis etc, and you don't see the issue.
@ap38409@shedreamspurpIe Again, it's assessed case by case.
The same disability can affect two different people very differently. Hence why there's criteria assessed for each individual.
You're misrepresenting how this works. That's not how assessments work. They ask questions, the disabled person
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe 1 in 5 people are mentally ill according to you?
What are the odds that many of those are experiencing significant trauma or stress in their current lives, and their feelings are a normal response?
@ap38409@shedreamspurpIe Oh? Go ahead provide evidence of all these people who aren't actually mentally ill. You actively brought up two mental illnesses for goodness aakes.
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe You just told me PIP assessors conclude on how someone's disability affects them... but they have no specialist understanding.
For example, are you qualified to comment on how multiple sclerosis impacts someone's daily life?
@ap38409@shedreamspurpIe Do you just.....not understand the most basic things about this topic?
It assessed case by case.
It doesn't work the way you're implying.
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe I agree with a lot of what you're saying, but I also think you are underestimating the volume of claims made by people who are not actually mentally ill, and would probably improve quickly with support.
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe And they are qualified to understand how mental illness affects capacity?
If they have no specialist understanding of the condition how will they understand the challenges it creates?
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe It is a consequence of crumbling MH care. Currently tons of patients with very complex issues are being managed by their GP which is insane, and obviously PIP claims is one consequence of that.
Because PIP assessors are not qualified to make those kinds of conclusions.
@ap38409@shedreamspurpIe But they can't do so without paying for it.
It took me being hospitalised for someone to actually even assess my symptoms rather than just defaulting to depression.
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe The problem is, they are not doing it, and they are palming people off on other areas of the state that they shouldn't even be in.
Claiming disability benefits for anxiety or depression should be a last resort after treatment failure, in most cases, very little has been tried.
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe That's 100% true. It is a failure of the system. Disability benefits are being used as a replacement for actual healthcare, which was my main point.
If someone has mental health issues, they should be receiving robust treatment, which is usually effective if actually done.
@Nimsay1988uk@shedreamspurpIe There are... its around 52 thousand people who receive it mainly for ADHD, that is, they self reported ADHD as their main disabling factor.
So the effect of other conditions would be peripheral.
@ap38409@shedreamspurpIe You said there are 'publicly available stats' for PIP claimants that have ADHD. I simply asked you to show some evidence, so we can actually assess it instead of publishing half truths. If you can't or won't provide data then it's best not to add to the hysteria about PIP.
@Nimsay1988uk@shedreamspurpIe I agree with analysing how many people actually received it for ADHD or related mental health issues. But the lens you are framing it in won't produce an accurate number.
Rather, looking at how many received it for ADHD related problems rather than that being incidental.
@Nimsay1988uk@shedreamspurpIe But it doesn't matter if they have another condition, if that is not what they received the grant for.
If an applicant has ADHD, but also has rhinitis, which is controlled and not why they are applying, they would be excluded from your evaluation?
@DandyDuck118582@shedreamspurpIe That's already a big problem, because welfare budget should not be covering treatment that is, de facto, already offered, because this is meant to be covered under other budgets.
That is something that happens with PIP. But it is usually for treatments the NHS don't offer.
@ap38409@shedreamspurpIe It allows them to pay for therapy. It allows them to pay for transportation that makes it easier to engage with life, like users for example. It allows them to pay for any costs associated with specific anxieties. People with severe anxiety often also have difficulties with day