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ITS SO CUTE BUT MY MANTIS EMOTE WHEEL IS FULL😣

@SalahHamou12 @shaner_mr @CoachMillsOW mantis has the worst sustain ult in the game unless u count ultron. if this was ow, then it might be broken, but this is rivals. rocket lacks depth, only having two boring abilities. he isn't well designed imo

@ashorivals @shaner_mr @CoachMillsOW Nah most balanced support is probably rocket raccoon , mantis ult is busted

They need to make Mantis viable in 2 support and not just a boring triple support enabler. Question is, is it even possible to make her good in 2 without being broken in 3?

@Deadeyedman0 @MarvelRivals it's only worth running mantis over storm in 2supp if u have divers or someone who will coordinate with u on a flank. otherwise, she's only ever gonna get played in trip supp. nerfing her only good ability isn't a buff nor does it solve her status in trip supp

@ashorivals @MarvelRivals My point is answering your post. It’s not a “crime,” it’s a targeted nerf to address feedback. The bigger prob is that it’s a design issue rather than a balance one. Storms is only 15m wide, Mantis is unlimited for 16s w/ speed boost simultaneously. Storms only to break spawn.

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@Deadeyedman0 @MarvelRivals calling it a crime was a joke. i'm aware of why they're doing it, but overall, it is a nerf. the trade off isn't worth it. it's 16s if u waste two leaves on it, which isn't worth in 2supp, ntm the 16 seconds isn't including the time it takes for divers/flankers to get 2 the flank

@Deadeyedman0 @MarvelRivals the only good thing abt her kit is now mid as well. the gameplay won't change, but the viability is significantly worse PARTICULARLY in duo supp. tbh she's only viable in trip atp

@ashorivals @MarvelRivals IMO nothing will change since it’s a fundamental design thing rather than a balance thing. Her kit is too perfect for enabling trip supp.

@Deadeyedman0 @MarvelRivals i'm aware of that. what's ur point? storm's unboosted dmg boost is the same percent as mantis' after the nerfs+ it's for several ppl at once. the only reason to use mantis over her now is for dive

@ashorivals @MarvelRivals She has dominated the pro meta for many seasons now. She’s also the face of trip supp (the thing the devs get the most flak for). It’s def a targeted nerf to address these. But don’t lie, you play her over storm b/c its 16s of unrestricted dmg boost. Other supps? Only by choice.

@shaner_mr @CoachMillsOW imo she's the only well designed and balanced supp. the others are overtuned, undertuned, or lack depth. that's why it's so controversial to buff her. i think smth like this could work well as long as dmg boost isn't nerfed. it is only a 12% boost btw (storm's is 10%)

@shaner_mr @CoachMillsOW i think that would solidly her place in trip even more bc dmg boost is the main reason to play her. if u nerf it in duo but not trip, there's no reason to play her in duo over any other supp. it would def be balanced, but the other supps aren't (ignoring adam&ultron)

@shaner_mr @CoachMillsOW it's genuienly so unfortunate. tbh i doubt they'll ever address the main support favoritism. it feels a little too engrained into the gameplay atp

@ashorivals @CoachMillsOW Yeah it’s tough solution with her specifically because of how much she excels in triple support vs the other supports. If they buff her she’s going to make triple even worst. If they nerf other supports you’re going to see a lot of those mains upset. Bit of a catch 22.

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@ggnodps Will never catch me on Adam warlock that’s for sure

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@shaner_mr @CoachMillsOW i would agree with this but too many supps are already almost always viable. all of the main supps can be played consistently. it feels bad seeing cnd & inv otps run free while i have to swap off my fav every other game. i think nerfing the other's dmg and heals is the solution

@CoachMillsOW I think we should just accept certain hero’s are going to excel differently in different comps. If they make her viable in 2 support it’ll prolly hinder her kit in some way and people will be saying “she’s not the same fun mantis”. IMO the fix is giving triple comps a 5% debuff.

at work the whole day and this is how i feel

@blackcatrivals @Adam6298112702 @fahadneto as someone who plays a lot of tank and supp, these are all off tanks. if u try to use any of them as solo main tanks, u are going to die without a pocket, which is why supps speak against them solo tanking. the supps who can't aim, don't play heroes that need aim btw LMAO

@Adam6298112702 @fahadneto Exactly like wtf is main tank 😂 they been dropping back to back tanks …any of these can “main tank” yall just hate to heal them cuz yall can’t aim while they bounce around

I just realized the last main tank we had was in season 2 and it’s been a year since..

@minniemogchuu @fahadneto If it was 5v5, maybe, but it's open role select 6v6. Off tanks make for significantly worse solo tanks, even if u play them perfectly. Sometimes the difference between getting to point at all is the solo off tank swapping to a main tank

@fahadneto The concept of main and off are pointless.