Askinnsr

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Askinnsr

Askinnsr

@askinnsr

Katılım Şubat 2022
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John Grant 🇺🇦
John Grant 🇺🇦@JGrant5291453·
Δεν θα υπάρξει σημειακή κρίση, ούτε περιορισμένο επεισόδιο. Από το τριεθνές του Έβρου ως τον Πενταδάκτυλο της Κύπρου θα βρέχει φωτιά. Θα αδειάσουν τα οπλοστάσια μας μέχρι την τελευταία σφαίρα, θα πολεμήσουμε στις παραλίες, στα χωράφια, στα βουνά και τις πόλεις, μέχρις εσχάτων.
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The Thinker
The Thinker@ottomanenglish·
One of the points that Türkiye most strongly objects to is the arming of the Aegean islands bordering Türkiye. For example, the number of Greek military personnel on Lesbos Island is estimated to be 15,000.
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Old school Basketball
@ottomanenglish I mean yeah ofc. It is not fair. How can one invade such a strongly defended island? It's insane. Please disarm all the Greek islands so that the mighty Turkish army can invade. 🤡
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@oompaloompa2k @okanaksahin1 @ottomanenglish According to the Treaty of Lausanne, you cannot arm the islands. That's the point. We don't even need to go to the island; it's within artillery range. No army could withstand this, so you're arming and provoking them unnecessarily.
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IoannisKonto@Ioanniskonto5·
@ryyberyy @Ademdem96176099 @JGrant5291453 Το τι εγινε στην Τριπολιτσα θα ωχρια με το τι θα γινει αν κουνηθειτε καρντασια. Και χωρις την σημασια που σας εδινε το Ιραν η η Ρωσια δεν θα εχετε και που να κλαψετε ρε θα σας γραφουν ολοι..
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Aurélien Duchêne
Aurélien Duchêne@AurelienDuchene·
Pendant ce temps : Erdogan prépare une législation qui officialiserait des revendications envers certaines îles et eaux grecques. La Grèce proteste envers cette atteinte envers sa souveraineté. Ne retombons pas dans la naïveté envers cet autre prédateur qu’est la Turquie ! 🇬🇷⚡️🇹🇷
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Keskin Dürbün | Derin Pusula
My friend, This trio of treaties looks impressive in citation, but it does not survive a reading of the actual texts. Taken in order: 1) Article 12 of Lausanne does not say what you claim it says. Article 12 assigns specific islands to Greece and specific islands to Turkey. Among the features assigned to Turkey are “all islands situated at less than three miles from the Asiatic coast.” Article 12 contains no clause stating that “everything beyond three miles belongs to Greece.” The reading you have cited is not in the text — it is an assumption inserted into it. There is a fundamental difference between “X belongs to Turkey” and “everything that is not X belongs to Greece.” The treaty makes the first statement. It does not make the second. 2) The 1932 Italo-Turkish Agreements covered only specifically enumerated groups of islets (particularly around Kastellorizo). They do not cover the approximately 152 small features — rocks, islets, formations — scattered across the Aegean. More importantly: Greece was not a party to those agreements. Pacta tertiis nec nocent nec prosunt — a treaty cannot create rights for third parties. To invoke 1932 instruments as a basis for Greek sovereignty is to repudiate one of the most elementary rules of international law. 3) Article 14 of the 1947 Paris Treaty effected a transfer from Italy to Greece. Nemo plus iuris transferre potest quam ipse habet — no one can transfer rights they do not themselves possess. Italy held sovereignty over only the features defined in the 1932 agreements; for features outside that scope, Italy possessed no sovereignty to transfer. Furthermore, Paris Article 14(2) bound the transfer with an explicit demilitarization condition: “These islands shall be and shall remain demilitarised.” That condition has been in continuous breach for sixty years. Where do the 152 Islands, Islets and Rocks of Unsettled Treaty Status in the Aegean features fit? Precisely here: in the grey zone that none of the three treaties expressly covers, and whose status therefore remains legally unsettled. The Turkish Foreign Ministry’s concept of EGAYDAAK (Islands, Islets and Rocks the Sovereignty Over Which Has Not Been Transferred to Greece by Treaty) names this grey zone explicitly. This is not theoretical speculation. The 1996 Kardak/Imia crisis arose directly from this legal lacuna. If sovereignty had been “resolved 100 years ago,” two NATO allies would not have been brought to the brink of war over a pair of rocks. The crisis itself is the proof that the question is not resolved. There is a more telling question still: if Greek sovereignty over these features is genuinely indisputable, why did Greece not refer Kardak to the International Court of Justice? The answer lies in the jurisprudence itself. Eritrea v. Yemen (1998), Indonesia v. Malaysia (Sipadan and Ligitan) (2002), Singapore v. Malaysia (Pedra Branca) (2008) — these cases resolve disputed island sovereignty through the doctrine of effectivités, meaning effective administration. For the Aegean grey-zone features, the record of effective administration is mixed and the outcome is genuinely uncertain. Greece understands this. That is why Greece does not bring the question to the bench. Summary: — Lausanne Article 12 does not assign “everything beyond three miles” to Greece; it assigns the features within three miles of the Anatolian coast to Turkey. — The 1932 Italo-Turkish instruments do not bind Greece (pacta tertiis) and cover only a limited set of features. — Paris 1947 can transfer no more than Italy itself held (nemo plus iuris) and is bound by the demilitarization condition. — The 152 EGAYDAAK features are not fully covered by any of the three treaties — and that fact is the legal foundation of the Turkish positioThe 1996 Kardak crisis is the concrete proof of the lacuna. — Greek refusal to litigate sovereignty is the admission of awareness of that lacuna. Citing three treaties is not sufficient; one must read them.
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Makedon Akritas 🇬🇷🇨🇾🇪🇺
The Treaty of Lausanne (Article 12), the Italo-Turkish Agreement of 1932, and the Treaty of Paris (Article 14) explicitly state that the islands and dependent islets beyond 3 miles do not belong to #Turkey but to #Greece.
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The Thinker
The Thinker@ottomanenglish·
Greek sources: Athens will declare the 12-mile limit before Türkiye passes the law...
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@NickGiann21 @ottomanenglish No clear mind accept this nonsense. You use Greek lake term as a propaganda. International court will decide who is right.
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Niko@NickGiann21·
@ottomanenglish We are heading to war Turkey is wrong here.. Greece isn’t helping Go to the ICJ
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The Thinker@ottomanenglish·
FORMER GREEK FOREIGN MINISTER BAKOYANNIS HAS OVERTURNED ATHENS' 50-YEAR-OLD OFFICIAL STATEMENT: "THE AEGEAN SEA IS NOT A GREEK LAKE."
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@ottomanenglish No clear mind would accept your so called map in the world. You are living an unreal propaganda. International court will decide who is right.
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@Akiratos_ No clear mind accept this nonsense. You use Greek lake term as a propaganda . International court will decide who is right.
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Ακήρατος🇪🇺🇺🇦
Η Τουρκία θέλει να μας πάρει 2.000 νησιά και το μισό Αιγαίο με έναν νόμο κι ένα άρθρο Προφανώς ο Ερντογάν έκανε ιδιαίτερα με τον Τσίπρα
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Andreas mavrogialouros
Andreas mavrogialouros@mavrogialouros_·
@ReyThiagocomest Σοβαρέψου ρε ηλιθιο τρολ και διάβασε το διεθνές δικαιο και τις συνθήκες που έχουν υπογράψει οι δυο χώρες.
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@ReyThiagocomest Bravo👏. No clear mind accept this nonsense. They use Greek lake term as a propaganda . International court will decide who is right.
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@n30n5223434 Greece is a synthetic an overinflated and hyped-up puppet state by hollywood movies. Actually, there isnt a state, only established for puppeteers.
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@HellenicEchoes Greece is a synthetic an overinflated and hyped-up puppet state by hollywood movies. Actually, there isnt a state, only established for puppeteers.
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Echoes of Hellas 🇬🇷
Echoes of Hellas 🇬🇷@HellenicEchoes·
Greek philosophy and mythhistory is central to the Western way of thought. No wonder so many people try to appropriate it and use it for their wicked agendas. As a response Greece needs to do a lot more to protect our cultural heritage from malicious practice by foreigners
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@syl_sylv7966337 Greece lake term is only a propaganda. That claim of owning islands thousands of years is another mindless propaganda which resembles Jew claims over Palestine. International court will decide. We'll see who is right
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@EuropeanPan Greece lake term is only a propaganda. That claim of owning islands thousands of years is another mindless propaganda which resembles Jew claims over Palestine. International court will decide. We'll see who is right
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@anatoliannn @EuropeanPan Greece lake term is only a propaganda. That claim of owning islands thousands of years is another mindless propaganda which resembles Jew claims over Palestine. Can you exactly know who was there before thosuands of years? No.
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tansel@anatoliannn·
@EuropeanPan So the answer is: it’s because Turkey does not agree with the idea that the Aegean should be treated as a Greek lake?
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Askinnsr@askinnsr·
@PAOKGATE45 international court will decide. We'll see who is rightous
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Giorgos. 1926
Giorgos. 1926@PAOKGATE45·
Greece's 12-nautical-mile EEZ is fully enshrined in international maritime law and thus legally secure.Since Turkey intends to engage in illegal piracy and attempts to promote this through absurd national laws,a joint EEZ with Cyprus is essential.
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