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the only thing i really care about right now is probably the climate and planet earth the destruction of our one and only home by it’s inhabitants just worries me to death

@sipo6061 my argument isn't solely that china was semi feudal my argument was the nature of the war and the character of China reinforcing that colonial and one sided nature

@azel078 your argument is that china is different because it was semi-feudal as if this contradicts that th victory over japan would result in it falling in the british sphere of influence i answered that a semi-feudal economy doesn't make a difference *here*

i wouldn't die fighting for my country simply because if my country got in a war with Russia, it wouldn't be an unprompted attack on us, but a purposefully engineered inter imperialist conflict.

@sipo6061 Russia was not a colonized society shortly beforehand either

@sipo6061 Russia wasn't being colonized by Germany and was waging a reactionary war for it's imperial interests

@sipo6061 and Russia and China were not comparable in terms of power or capitalist development this is disingenous

@sipo6061 Natlib or a palestinian state will not free the palestinians from their national bourgeoisie or colonizers

@azel078 and since it is about ALL national wars, one could similarly say that the recognition of palestine as a state will lead to palestine falling to the sphere of influence of the chinese-russian-iranian bloc or whatever

@sipo6061 @Schizo_Marxist of brussels on the other side

@sipo6061 @Schizo_Marxist I don't "pick" Ukraine because that would imply supporting them being sent to die for Washington DC and Brussels interests, I do support the Ukrainian people as they are invaded by a reactionary imperialist regime on one side and have been pushed to the war by the imperialists-

@sipo6061 A reactionary war with two imperial blocs facing each other

@sipo6061 China was a fragmented asymmetrical semi feudal society where capitalism wasn't even properly established yet resisting a colonial invasion by an adversary who's goal was to subjugate exploit and eradicate them. Their war of national liberation was progressive and not merely-

@sipo6061 then the two situations aren't comparable and you can't say what Russia is doing is similar to what the israelis are doing in Gaza

@azel078 the capabilities are smaller because ukraine is a functioning state with an actual army and international recognition, they can't occupy and destroy ukraine the same way israel destroys gaza because of that

@sipo6061 The point that it is in fact an inter imperialist conflict and a clash of ambitions as they state at the bottom

@sipo6061 That argument does not even go against the original point When we say "NATO Expansion" we also just mean the fact that Ukraine was falling into the Western EU/NATO sphere of influence which goes directly against the imperial interests of Russia What you just sent reinforces-

@sipo6061 I agree that there are similarities, but that's not the main character of the war

@azel078 russia's capabilities in ukraine are smaller, so they won't be able to do the same is israel in gaza + it's rather abt political identity, so an assimilation seems to be a more valid option but recently, for example, i read abt the russian authorities expelling ukrainians from

@sipo6061 to fight a proxy war against Russia. I uphold revolutionary defeatism

@sipo6061 i wholeheartedly agree that we must support the Ukrainian people because obviously they're getting invaded and Russia has been doing crimes against them, but supporting the Ukrainian people means not supporting the NATO war effort that uses them as canon fodder

@sipo6061 the goal of the russians isn't to completely genocide and colonize ukraine ( or it's definitely not the first and most important goal or why the war began)

@azel078 if you mean the death toll, it's smaller compared to gaza, but there are genocides with smaller number: in terms of death toll, the bosnian genocide is only 2 (or even less) times as big as the known number of killed ukrainian civilians

@sipo6061 no it's not comparable in the sense that it is two symmetrical armies facing each other in a conventional war the palestinians have no national army or conventional army and the goal of the colonial war of israel is their genocide and subjugation