BLACKANGEL

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BLACKANGEL

BLACKANGEL

@bluezyo

ill be honest i made this account to see what twitter is actually like. (4 years here and now i see that crist truly is king)

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BLACKANGEL@bluezyo·
@iShowShitpost shit i should check the one i have bookmarked i aint looked in like a year
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Everyone in the world has to take a private vote by pressing a red or blue button. If more than 50% of people press the blue button, everyone survives. If less than 50% of people press the blue button, only people who pressed the red button survive. Which button would you press?
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BLACKANGEL@bluezyo·
@txnoco @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy lives to be saved that may not be saved but with the self added to the pile. as much as id love to trust that most people would rather save others. altho people tend to have a problem with either doing it to much or not enough
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yakra@txnoco·
@bluezyo @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy i am aware red is a safer option to yourself and it does make sense to save the presser as an individual, but to someone that recognizes there are lives to be saved red becomes irrelevant since it only saves the presser and votes are secret
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BLACKANGEL@bluezyo·
@txnoco @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy i agree completely im not even saying that the people who choose blue are wrong. im saying that red is a much safer option and(given everyone has the ability to choose) it makes sense to choose red instead of gambling your life AND the lifes you intend to save
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yakra@txnoco·
@bluezyo @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy i am not stating "better" or "worse", but that is the core reasoning divergence between us. i also believe that there are already people who gamble their lives to save someone else and it is extremely dysfunctional for civilization to extinguish them
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BLACKANGEL@bluezyo·
@txnoco @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy interesting thought actually. while admit it sucks(exept the indesicive people fucking pick at random) that they die with blues im simply saying if you have the choice and can choose the best option would be red. not gambling on the virtue of man
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yakra@txnoco·
@bluezyo @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy so would you say it is reasonable to infer that by picking red you perceive it to be preferable that anyone who didnt pick blue but also didnt pick red (be it because of indecision or inability) also die together with the blues?
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yakra@txnoco·
@DickFarquaad @bluezyo @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy i also get what you are saying, it is a valid pov but not risking your own life and allowing them to die are not mutually exclusive even if to you the former is more important than the latter.
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yakra@txnoco·
@bluezyo @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy tell me if this is illogical: im aware the premise does not include "neither" but by stating only red surviving means those who refused or were unable to pick either red or blue also dont survive
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yakra@txnoco·
@DickFarquaad @bluezyo @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy i havent said anything about responsibility, i admit "allowing to die" is more accurate than "kill", even still my line of reasoning is based on the fact that at least one irrational actor will pick blue and i dont believe they should be allowed to die
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dickler@DickFarquaad·
@txnoco @bluezyo @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy But you don’t kill anyone - that’s not a factor. Anyone voting blue is opting to maybe kill themselves, the responsibility is their own. Why should red be held responsible for the choices of blue? That line of thinking is flawed.
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dickler@DickFarquaad·
@txnoco @bluezyo @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy Wrong. The options presented are “Red” or “Blue, potentially die if not enough other people vote blue”. It’s pointless virtue signalling. How are you this stupid? Let’s change it to the outcomes: - Live Or - Potentially kill yourself. Pick an option.
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dickler@DickFarquaad·
@txnoco @bluezyo @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy Genocide would mean blue don’t also have the choice to survive with no consequences, which they do. Red isn’t: - Survive - Kill blue It’s just “Survive” Blue is a pointless gamble: - Survive IF: — Enough people also vote blue.
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BLACKANGEL@bluezyo·
@txnoco @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy actually you could debate that. plus all i said that this is literaly one of the few situations where selfishness is the best option. i get where your coming from but based on the prompt all everyone had to do was be selfish and nobody dies
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yakra@txnoco·
@bluezyo @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy the description of majority blue is everyone survives. red is not the only choice that doesnt kill people, it is the only choice that doesnt kill who pressed red. if everyone only thought about themselves civilization would not have been neither built nor mantained
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BLACKANGEL@bluezyo·
@txnoco @DickFarquaad @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy this has a bit of a problem red - the self is exspandable to everyone red is literaly the only choice that doesnt kill people the only problem are the people thinking about everyone instead of themselves
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yakra@txnoco·
@DickFarquaad @bluezyo @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy it refers to death and the red button, they are not mutually exclusive. i am not the one proposing the dilemma. inferring every person can do the same means (consciously or not) you do not consider irrational actors as people. using only the word live red - you blue - everyone
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dickler@DickFarquaad·
@txnoco @bluezyo @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy Because you are an idiot. That second factor also says “If less than half push this, you will die”. Red doesn’t have that, it’s just “Push this and live”. “Push this and live” Or “push this and potentially die” It’s not hard to understand. It’s safety or potential suicide.
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BLACKANGEL@bluezyo·
@taha_fury @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy thats the funny part this is one of the few sinerios where if everyone is selfish everyone is fine. i think theres a term in game theory for somthing like this. but yea if red is the only real option
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taha fury@taha_fury·
@bluezyo @FoldingNapkins @waitbutwhy the con of red is that whoever didn't press red dies, that person could be your friend, parent or sibling, by picking red you then made it more likely for blue to have less than 50% picks thus becoming an accessory to mass murder.
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