@DraganBajic @SimonMDLord @but_cyclists @ArtistCyclist Check your house contents policy - you'll find it covers 3rd party liability for all occupants when out and about, including cycling.
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@boydmjohnston
Retired IT Specialist who plays golf and cycles. Independence supporter. Qualified bikeability instructor. Commuted by bike into central Glasgow for years.
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@boydmjohnston @SimonMDLord @but_cyclists @ArtistCyclist Again this doesn’t pertain to the original argument. And no, you’d need specialist insurance. Very rare. x.com/draganbajic/st…
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@SimonMDLord @but_cyclists @ArtistCyclist Look at the original post. No emissions or road damage=no VED. That’s OK, but using the same logic: no road tax, no insurance, no fuel duty (or VAT)=no cycling on public roads. General taxation has no logical relevance to this argument.
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Let's all agree cyclists should pay Vehicle Excise Duty like car drivers have to. To be consistent we should calculate it using the same methods applied to motorised vehicles. Cyclists do not create emissions and do not damage the road. Therefore the charge comes to zero. Result.
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@5280FT @but_cyclists @Aaron05017075 @SlopHq How is gdp relevant? London, Paris, Berlin and Rome are all much more pedestrian-friendly as they are no longer dominated by motor traffic. This makes tourism a significant contribution to the economy.
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@boydmjohnston @but_cyclists @Aaron05017075 @SlopHq Always hilarious to hear these comparisons to Europe. Apple is a larger share of global GDP than most European countries. These are amusement park economies compared to the US.
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calling a bike lane a "war on cars" when cars have 12 lanes and bikes have a stripe of green paint is the most impressive victim complex in modern american life and i say that as someone who has watched a lot of american life
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@CroyyTarterr @but_cyclists @TheRoadPadrone There was one incident where a pavement cyclist was deliberately knocked off by a pedestrian, fell onto the road and then struck and killed by a car. Pavement cycling is not safe for pedestrians or cyclists.
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@boydmjohnston @but_cyclists @TheRoadPadrone regardless of legality, is it safer for cyclists to be on the pavement or on the road, in your honest opinion?
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@CroyyTarterr @but_cyclists @TheRoadPadrone It's actually safer on the road for a properly trained cyclist. There are road rules to protect cyclists, and drivers are afraid of scratching their precious cars if they hit a cyclist. Having said that, being hit by a car hurts more than hitting a pedestrian.
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@5280FT @but_cyclists @Aaron05017075 @SlopHq Tell that to the hundreds of thousands of cycle commuters in all the major cities in Europe where, on most routes into city centres, cyclists far outnumber drivers. Cycling is a legitimate mode of transport for shorter journeys, cheap, healthy and non-polluting.
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@Aaron05017075 @SlopHq @but_cyclists No, cars produce the value in this economy that allows pet projects like bike lanes to exist. Autonomous, at the ready, point to point, temperature controlled travel. Bikes are a hobby.
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@gpz01 @DrAnamorphosis @theSNP SNP2 in the last election produced lots of unionist MSPs because it took 10 times the number of SNP regional votes to get one list MSP compared to other parties.
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@DrAnamorphosis @theSNP Plenty evidence online SNP second vote gave the SNP a majority
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Dear @thesnp (or anyone) I'm going to vote SNP 1, but why should I vote SNP2? Look at this Ashcroft polling - 31% of the list vote gets ONE list seat.
Tell me what I'm misunderstanding, show me some modelling to make voting SNP2 make sense - seriously
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@SimonMDLord @DraganBajic @but_cyclists @ArtistCyclist The point is that all taxpayers pay, not just drivers, even for motorways that cyclists are not allowed on.
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@boydmjohnston @DraganBajic @but_cyclists @ArtistCyclist Council tax does not 'pay for roads'.
Bins, sort of, but 80% of local authority funding comes from the Treasury.
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@DraganBajic @SimonMDLord @but_cyclists @ArtistCyclist Council tax pays for the roads that cyclists use. House contents insurance policies cover third party liability insurance for all cyclists in a household. Probably a higher percentage of road cyclists are insured than drivers.
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@SimonMDLord @but_cyclists @ArtistCyclist Look at the original post. No emissions or road damage=no VED. That’s OK, but using the same logic: no road tax, no insurance, no fuel duty (or VAT)=no cycling on public roads. General taxation has no logical relevance to this argument.
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All drivers should have 2 weeks per year when they are not allowed to drive. It would make them realise how shit town planning/road safety/public transport is for pedestrians in the UK and maybe do something about it.
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@CroyyTarterr @but_cyclists @TheRoadPadrone The difference is that cycling on the pavement is illegal. Cyclists on the road are almost always perfectly predictable - to be otherwise is dangerous for the cyclist and most road cyclists are well aware of that.
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@boydmjohnston @but_cyclists @TheRoadPadrone how you feel about pedestrians is how drivers feel about cyclists🤣 cyclists are too unpredictable and drivers have places to be. next you’ll be saying joggers need to be on the road too
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@CroyyTarterr @but_cyclists @TheRoadPadrone No, cyclists belong on the road. Pedestrians are too unpredictable. Like drivers, cyclists have places to be and schedules to keep and being on the road allows them to travel at a reasonable speed.
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@boydmjohnston @but_cyclists @TheRoadPadrone well no, they can treat pedestrians how drivers treat cyclists, slow down and pass when safe.
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@BenGrahamUK @but_cyclists You know nothing about cycling. Regular commuter cyclists learn very quickly that their biggest problem is dealing with drivers who can be careless, incompetent, distracted or, rarely, even malevolent. And cyclists don't have a protective metal skin.
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@but_cyclists Cyclists aren't vulnerable, they are usually just incompetent when it comes to road laws.
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£2 million. On a roundabout.
Not even a new road, just a redesigned junction in Hemel Hempstead.
This Dutch style layout prioritises cyclists and pedestrians, forces drivers to give way multiple times, and is so confusing the council had to release a 3 minute explainer video just to show people how to use it.
Meanwhile, roads crumble, services struggle, and bills rise.
This isn’t investment.
It’s mismanagement.
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@CroyyTarterr @but_cyclists @TheRoadPadrone But not for the pedestrians. There's a reason why pavement cycling is illegal.
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@TheRoadPadrone if we’re willing to ‘break the law’ if it’s safe, get off the roads and stay on the pavements, safest place for cyclists
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@abadabus @ChaponaBike123 If you're a cyclist, then you clearly have no bikeability training and haven't read the Highway Code, both of which advise cyclists to take the centre of the lane where the road narrows. This driver was a bullying a**ehole.
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@ChaponaBike123 Why do you intentionally antagonise drivers? You did not have to ride in the middle of the road like that. You’ll claim you didn’t, I know you will, but you did. You intentionally antagonise drivers and it’s all for clicks. Not cool dude. You give us cyclists a bad rep.
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@FietserGlasgow @PhilipOnslow @ChaponaBike123 All the driver had to do was lift off momentarily. The cyclist was on his own side of the road and reached the narrowing first. The driver was an inconsiderate oik.
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Anyone know why the back wheel kept spinning round?
Chapona Bike@ChaponaBike123
Chap falling of his electric motorbike whilst riding along a cycle lane.
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@UU_Ess_Pee @but_cyclists Personally, I never jump red lights and don't like to see other cyclists do it. The cyclists who do it are annoying, but seldom dangerous to anyone but themselves. It's an overplayed theme from people who just don't like cyclists.
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@boydmjohnston @but_cyclists I witness as many cyclist errors as you do driving ones. It’s just how it is. However, you jumping red traffic lights and saying cars cause most fatalities is a bizarre take. I mean, if you jump a red light and crash in to me, you may die.
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What actually makes a cyclist's day is completing a journey without capturing any instances of driver's "making a mistake"
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@NoCyclopathTO @but_cyclists Must make a cyclist's day when they use the camera on their helmet to video a driver making a mistake.
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@UU_Ess_Pee @but_cyclists How little you know about cycling! Keeping myself safe from all these driver "mistakes" is the main priority - that's where the danger comes from. Any commuter cyclist will be fully alert and anticipating the next "mistake" they're bound to encounter.
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@boydmjohnston @but_cyclists Maybe you should just concentrate on what you’re doing, then you’d be a bit safer yourself?
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@binliftin4osama @but_cyclists Drivers are the ones who are subsidised. Cyclists mostly pay rates which pay for the roads they're allowed to use.
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@but_cyclists pedaltards are not road users as they do not pay for it and should be treated like nuisance they are, speed bumps, wet puddles, general non existence, no license plate not a road user
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Motorists who use their phones at the wheel or drive dangerously around cyclists and other vulnerable road users are just "making the odd mistake"
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@but_cyclists Year, of course….Cretins like “Cycling Mikey” wouldn’t have a fucking platform without unsuspecting motorists making the odd mistake (although I’ve yet to see a red light offence caught on camera by him….).
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@UU_Ess_Pee @but_cyclists On every commute I would see several drivers making a "mistake" that would be an immediate test fail. Phone fiddling, close passing, amber gambling, tailgating etc etc. Every commute, multiple drivers. Driving to test standard is a lost art for many.
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@but_cyclists Year, of course….Cretins like “Cycling Mikey” wouldn’t have a fucking platform without unsuspecting motorists making the odd mistake (although I’ve yet to see a red light offence caught on camera by him….).
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