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Chris Carey

@cboom12

rocklin ca Katılım Ekim 2012
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Chase Senior
Chase Senior@Chase_Senior·
Kyle Shanahan is the San Francisco 49ers' biggest strength and biggest weakness. #49ers
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@BDPeacock That being said I do think that there is more latitude to find that outlier in the later rounds. It just seems like poor allocation of assets to try to find it in rds 1-3.
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Chris Carey
Chris Carey@cboom12·
@BDPeacock I need more information. Just because you value a player higher or lower doesn’t necessarily make you or the board right. What is the percentage of hits when you reach vs the consensus. If your whole draft philosophy revolves around finding outliers I think that’s bad process.
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Brian Peacock
Brian Peacock@BDPeacock·
Of course smart teams are aware of consensus boards. DeCosta doesn’t mention that some teams have UDFA grades on players that other teams take rd2. Also there are wild outliers within the consensus (kinda the point). Do players taken higher actually hit?
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@Mauerback @grantcohn That sounds weird. it’s not that I think that, it’s what the current grades say. Obviously we will see if that hold up.
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Chris Carey
Chris Carey@cboom12·
@Mauerback @grantcohn I think Washington had one of the best drafts by value this yr for what it’s worth. They also have been on the rise since Peter’s got there. Of course that is skewed because they got Daniel’s. Could be that those late rd hits for SF were Peter’s?
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Grant Cohn
Grant Cohn@grantcohn·
For all the analysts who say you can't grade a draft class for three years, let's see your grades for the 49ers' 2023 draft class. It has been three years.
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@B_Tek3 @HarryBerezin To be fair mcglinchy isn’t a bust in the sense that they got 5 yrs of production, but he was a top 10 pick. I don’t think you draft a guy there without thinking he will be around for a 2nd contract.
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Billy_Boy_49
Billy_Boy_49@B_Tek3·
@HarryBerezin McGlincy is a good example, the 49ers exercised his 5th year option, they were already paying the highest paid tackle in the league & could not afford to keep him at market value, which was 88M, he walked & 3rd rd comp pick was returned, but guys like Larry will call him a bust…
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Harry Berezin
Harry Berezin@HarryBerezin·
One thing I’m noticing is there seems to be this idea that a draft pick isn’t a successful one unless the team signs the player to a second contract. I think in some cases that misunderstands the team’s philosophy. Take the guard position for instance. The 49ers have . . .
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@TheJuiceTDGuy The wild thing about this quote is by definition they do the opposite. Letting the draft come to you would be taking Stribling at 58 or taking black in the 4th or 5th if at all. The fact they think this is very telling.
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Chase Senior
Chase Senior@Chase_Senior·
"Chase, you're such a 49ers hater." Wrong. I've been very complimentary of the 49ers. The coaching, the success, the history. But the Niners are not without their faults. What makes the 49ers so frustrating, is that their level of coaching covers up the draft misses. Can you imagine how good the 49ers would be if they drafted better and actually prioritized the offensive line? They would be a WAGON! I'm not going to cover the 49ers with knee pads. Positivity and praise when justified, keep it real and honest when it's the other way. Every data point points to too many draft misses and reaches. They're draft process is flawed. #49ers
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@akashanav This is true but we have seen seasons where the older elite players aren’t available. If they can’t show the ability to replace those guys there will be really lean years in the future.
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Akash Anavarathan
Akash Anavarathan@akashanav·
Despite what happens every April in the draft (reach for players, RBs in the 3rd, OL draft picks later) Shanahan and the coaches are so good, they find ways to band aid bad draft picks, coach through injuries and have the team in the mix every year.
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@TheJuiceTDGuy How “they know more than you” crowd doesn’t get this is a total mystery.
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Jack’s offseason depression
Jack’s offseason depression@TheJuiceTDGuy·
"They are professionals and you are not" worked the first few years. This is their 9th draft. We've watched them make the same mistakes for a decade. Our frustration is based on factual, provable, recent history. There's a clearly observable pattern, and they aren't learning.
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@fatfatleon @dieter This is the age old question. Hard to say without being in the building right?? How engaged could Kyle possibly be on late rd picks?? One would think the scouts would handle a lot of that?? Do they make recommendations and Kyle looks at those as decides??
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john
john@fatfatleon·
@dieter Is it Lynch or Kyle? Doesn’t Kyle have final say?
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Dieter Kurtenbach 🔥
Dieter Kurtenbach 🔥@dieter·
I will say: haven’t heard a peep of “what is John Lynch doing?” from anyone who is an active participant in this draft. (And that’s the exact kind of thing someone who texts me would say.) This draft is a wasteland.
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@9er4Life33 @timkawakami What I’m actually advocating is getting Kyle a real GM. Also your original question the answer is 7. 2 of which are Doug Peterson and Nick siriani who can’t hold Kyle’s jock. If the bar is being better than a bunch of shit teams then we just disagree what success looks like.
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Tim Kawakami
Tim Kawakami@timkawakami·
Lol, I think they were exactly something very similar last night. They also... err... have made it to 2 Super Bowls and went 12-5 last year. HOW DARE THEY! I DEMAND ANSWERS FOR THIS. You guys are... furious at all times. You should make the tackle then.
Miguel Chapeton@ProFootballPSI

@timkawakami How about try holding them accountable and ask the tough Q. "You have a ten year history of significantly reaching for players above consensus with little success. You've done it again with Stribling and Black, why is this time different and have you learned from past mistakes?"

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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@9er4Life33 @timkawakami What difference does it make. I’m not advocating for firing Kyle. Had Tim not blocked me I would have clarified that point. 2 pts. 1 Kyle is one of the best coaches in football. He elevates the roster no question. 2 they consistently draft poorly.
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@49ersfan012 @timkawakami Like I said. Also playing 9 playoff team, and losing to 5 of them including getting totally dominated and embarrassed by your division rival ain’t it.
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Maverick
Maverick@49ersfan012·
@cboom12 @timkawakami The schedule was way tougher than it was initially thought. Stop acting like it was a cupcake schedule. They played 9 playoff teams and 3 more that barely missed the playoffs. They also had massive amounts of injuries
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Al Sacco
Al Sacco@AlSacco49·
#49ers are a superbly coached football team. 49ers are excellent at making trades. 49ers need to re-evaluate their entire approach to the draft.
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@timkawakami Tim just blocked me for this. Softest block ever. What a pussy.
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Chris Carey@cboom12·
@timkawakami Tim why do you defend them. They haven’t won shit. They repeatedly draft poorly. They went 12-5 against a terrible schedule and got absolutely curb stomped by a Div rival in the playoffs. They aren’t close and are acting like THEY just won the SB.
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