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@SyIvanos @rynothethird @mathrocked how you felt typing this

@ceoofgod @rynothethird @mathrocked I don't open this app expecting intelligence, I take it you assume you're the exception? No. I'd rather be a former master Sylvanos from (when I actually played) years prior, over having a debate with you.

im uninvolved but do people seriously think leffen has 1 viewer just becaue of a cherrypicked screenshot

@SyIvanos @rynothethird @mathrocked are you looking for an intelligent conversation or do you just want to complain and go back to being a bronze sylvanos

@rynothethird @ceoofgod @mathrocked Well, it used to be about playing a video game and not about using your platform to engage with a particular brand of American politics regardless of what country you're from.

@rynothethird @SyIvanos @mathrocked you can disagree with the actions of multiple parties, leffen included. Mind you, leffen is literally a major part of the problem within the smash community. He helped propagate false claims against ZeRo (though that guy is still a huge fucking creep for other reasons)

@ceoofgod @SyIvanos @mathrocked i think my hatred for the Smash community, the competitive and the like and all their weird gross evil gaslighting garbage they get up to would override any hate i could have for leffen if any. i take this personally because i have been playing Smash Bros since 97'

@rynothethird @SyIvanos @mathrocked im not the worlds biggest technicals hater or fan, he has made some extremely egregious errors in his reporting that has cost people their jobs, he covers use for his brother being a creep, and has made it more difficult for people to share their stories, especially women

@ceoofgod @SyIvanos @mathrocked ah. you might not like this but technicals has done such important work to expose the Smash Bros community for their bullshit. i like him a lot. tangent, what Grimr and that tournament did to panda global was fucking shameful. ah so it's purely subjective hate.

@rynothethird @SyIvanos @mathrocked (continuing) and just is a really unlikable guy. he causes drama kinda wherever he goes, if you like the villain thing maybe thats a positive for you hard to deny he's one of the best fighting game players of all time though

@rynothethird @SyIvanos @mathrocked theres really 2 camps of people who hate leffen 1. people who think leffen is a murderer because of what happened to hax and listen to technicals like he's the bible 2. people who don't like leffen because he's made fun of people with disabilities, continues to be a general ass

@SyIvanos @mathrocked I hate leffen too but this obviously is a stupid ass screenshot

@mathrocked Just say you're a Leffen fan.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond those kinds of resources are what git me to where I am, I do that for pretty much every game I play I want to get good at

@ceoofgod @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond At this time in my life? 0 it's not a genre I am good at. I'm also OLD and things like discord and rewatching replays didn't exist in 2004 when I was playing smash.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond how much time do you put into playing them? do you join char a cter discords? do you rewatch ranked games you lose and have documents for match ups?

@ceoofgod @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond Incorrect, just because you can't recognize your talents doesn't mean they don't exist. I could put in the same amount of hard work and I'll never be a top tier platform fighting player. Very odd to deny that some people are just better at certain things.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond its all hard work, 0 talent, that's okay and im proud of myself for it

@ceoofgod @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond You do have talent or else you couldn't reach that top tier, stop downing yourself and celebrate your excellence.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond sure but im most certainly not talented, I have motor issues that often make it extremely difficult to play

@ceoofgod @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond You are talented, and you worked hard. Good doesn't require both. Good is beating the 50th percentile.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond I do! I work hard to get tk the level I have gotten, chalking up my hard work to talent isn't celebrating myself, it's the opposite.

@ceoofgod @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond And I'm sorry you can't celebrate yourself.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond im sorry you lack the indomitable human spirit

@ceoofgod @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond If you didn't have talent you never would have gotten that far. No amount of hard work can overcome someone who works and it and is talented.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond a developed skillets and a talent are different things

@ceoofgod @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond That doesn't track. Being amazing at a game is a talent. You developed it by playing to win. Congrats.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond okay but im not talented, i just have a good mindset, you can be amazing without being talented

@ceoofgod @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond You are actually amazing if you're in the top 5%. Take some pride in yourself.

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond I'm pretty damn good at a lot of platform fighters, im top 5% in a good few, and even then im pretty talentless, being interested in learning makes you better, youre clearly just really fucking butthurt, you dont need talent to be anything but maybe extreme top level

@Saeba5047182490 @ceoofgod @DrakeVagabond They don't, there is a level beyond good. Good starts at about the 50th percentile, great starts at around the 70th, amazing is 90th and godlike is 99th.

@Saeba5047182490 @funkyspokes @DrakeVagabond bit*

@Saeba5047182490 @funkyspokes @DrakeVagabond actually you are right on this one they are clearly just a but insecure about their skill level

@funkyspokes @Saeba5047182490 @DrakeVagabond but even more relevant is crossbar placement, understanding map layouts, understanding time to kill, understanding the best places to stand and what the footsteps sound queues mean

@Saeba5047182490 @ceoofgod @DrakeVagabond You are thinking very black and white here, in a 1v1 gunfight match with both people at approximately the same skill level the person with better natural ability will win more often. That's not a judgement statement. It is not a value statement.

@Saeba5047182490 @funkyspokes @DrakeVagabond I dont think thats what they said at all either

@funkyspokes @ceoofgod @DrakeVagabond Well I disagree with the idea that “good players don’t have to try to be good”