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@cherbpilled

Atheist, Empiricist

👲🥢 Katılım Ocak 2024
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@PeterLowrie12 I respect your willingness to admit your own incredulity, subjects like these are often to understand, and I know because I used to reject evolution when I was heavily religious; but nowadays evolution has helped us to develop vaccines, stable agricultural practices, and more
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Peter Lowrie@PeterLowrie12·
I wouldn't couch me as "Believe in". More agnostic I guess. Notwithstanding strong faith, this little noggin of mine just can't fit all of it in. Perhaps these relate to mysteries enunciated by St. Paul. Was born in 1960.
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@PeterLowrie12 Yes. So do you believe transitional species are real? In that case it would not conflict with the idea of intelligent design either; once again, God can use divine providence to achieve his goals, in this case transitional species over millions of years for a final product.

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@PeterLowrie12 Yes. So do you believe transitional species are real? In that case it would not conflict with the idea of intelligent design either; once again, God can use divine providence to achieve his goals, in this case transitional species over millions of years for a final product.
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Peter Lowrie@PeterLowrie12·
Indeed, that was my point. They're creatures, vis-a-vis created. IMO, and I realise we may not agree - but that's OK, these animals were designed this way. We appear to have worldviews coming in from differing angles, once again completely OK. Methinks we understand civility.
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@PeterLowrie12 I’m curious; why do you think they are not indicative of evolutionary transitions? Transitional species retain ancestral traits, in the case of Hoatzin chicks the clawed wings, and also the platypus also shows clear transitional traits like laying eggs while having fur

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@PeterLowrie12 I’m curious; why do you think they are not indicative of evolutionary transitions? Transitional species retain ancestral traits, in the case of Hoatzin chicks the clawed wings, and also the platypus also shows clear transitional traits like laying eggs while having fur
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Peter Lowrie@PeterLowrie12·
Ok, I don't disagree with you there. Let's look at another couple of examples of strange creatures; Hoatzin chicks have functional claws on their wings, and Platypus a monotreme. Weird they are, however, not indicative of evolutionary transitions.
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@PeterLowrie12 First of all, Tiktaalik is not an amphibian. Tiktaalik has been extremely well studied and it’s up to you whether to recognize its status as a transitional species or not, because it is. Also, Tiktaalik sharing anatomy with other creatures today isn’t a counter argument

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@PeterLowrie12 First of all, Tiktaalik is not an amphibian. Tiktaalik has been extremely well studied and it’s up to you whether to recognize its status as a transitional species or not, because it is. Also, Tiktaalik sharing anatomy with other creatures today isn’t a counter argument
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Peter Lowrie
Peter Lowrie@PeterLowrie12·
I saw a tree stump became fossilized when a million volt's transmission line fell onto it - took a couple of hours. Tiktaalik is simply an amphibian with gills and lungs, like lungfish and eels. "Transitional species never found."
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@PeterLowrie12 We have many, the most famous and revolutionary being Tiktaalik. But in the scientific community it’s acknowledged that due to the extremely rare nature of fossilization most transitional species are never found.

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cherb@cherbpilled·
@willedward94 @Ernest1588761 Your understanding of the definition of “scientific theory” is the same as your understanding of the fundamentals of evolution.
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Ernest-001⚓💫💫@Ernest1588761·
Theists do not understand what a theory really is.
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@PeterLowrie12 We have many, the most famous and revolutionary being Tiktaalik. But in the scientific community it’s acknowledged that due to the extremely rare nature of fossilization most transitional species are never found.
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Peter Lowrie@PeterLowrie12·
Can you point to any "transitional species" within the evolutionist paradigm?
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@PeterLowrie12 You choose to believe in because it is both fact and theory. The phenomenon of evolution is the fact, and the explanation behind it is the theory; just the same as the theory of germs, the Heliocentric theory, etc. So, as a Christian, I believe it’s fine to believe in evolution.

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@Crusader748767 @Ernest1588761 No qualified scientist will disagree with evolution btw. It’s literally the central framework of the entirety of modern biology.
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Crusader@Crusader748767·
@Ernest1588761 There are scientists that disagree with the theory of evolution
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@maklelan It’s actually the opposite lol, belief in evolution is at a high in the US right now with 8/10 Americans believing evolution is real
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@PeterLowrie12 You choose to believe in because it is both fact and theory. The phenomenon of evolution is the fact, and the explanation behind it is the theory; just the same as the theory of germs, the Heliocentric theory, etc. So, as a Christian, I believe it’s fine to believe in evolution.
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@PeterLowrie12 And the reason is it doesn’t actually conflict with the Bible; for example, in the Bible, God uses divine providence to achieve his goals, whether that may take hundreds or thousands of years; evolution can fit into this. Evolution in science, as I said is not something -
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Peter Lowrie@PeterLowrie12·
So it rained for billions of years onto rocks. And from non-living matter motile life emerged, complexified to become what we are today. #fpstate=ive&vld=cid:7f00d751,vid:PRROQdEdCnc,st:0" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">google.com/search?client=… evolved, my foot.
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@PeterLowrie12 @j_bambrick Laminin evolved this shape because its shape maximized efficiency at the molecular level, but for some reason you choose not to believe in human evolution.

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cherb@cherbpilled·
@PeterLowrie12 designer with an intention, it’s a tinkerer; it’s not hard to understand, over billions of years, each step of an organisms evolution increases their biological fitness. If you want, I can explain why evolution and Christianity aren’t in conflict
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cherb@cherbpilled·
@PeterLowrie12 First of all — evolution doesn’t explain the origin of life, that’s an entirely different field. I’m sorry if I used the phrase “believe in” because it’s not really a choice for scientists to choose whether to believe in evolution or not. Also, evolution isn’t a (continue)
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@NATBLT2017 @Jaemyung_Lee Bao Dai was a French dog who didn’t even have a say in any political matter. You don’t know your history
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NAT Nguyen@NATBLT2017·
@cherbpilled @Jaemyung_Lee AFTER NUCLEAR BOMB IN HIROSHIMA AND NAGASAKI. JAPANESE AMBASSADOR, YOKOYAMA MET EMPEROR BAO DAI IN MARCH 12, 1945. HE SAID, “ PRENCH POWER WAS ENDED & JAPAN RETURNS INDEPENDENCE OF VIETNAM TO YOU.” IN AUGUST 2945, HCM SEIZED THIS OPPORTUNITY TO TRANSFORM TO COMMUNIST COUNTRY.
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이재명@Jaemyung_Lee·
호치민 주석 묘소 앞에 서서 한 나라의 독립과 건국을 이끈 위대한 지도자의 삶을 되새겨보았습니다. 자주 역량을 키워 국가의 더 나은 내일을 만들어가고자 했던 그의 철학은 오늘날 베트남이 이룩한 발전의 토대이자 베트남 국민들의 무한한 자긍심이리라 생각합니다. 대한민국과 베트남은 서로의 성장을 응원하며 새로운 상생의 미래를 열어가고 있습니다. 수많은 베트남 청년들이 우리 기업에서 기술을 배우고, 한국의 문화와 콘텐츠는 베트남 국민들의 자연스러운 일상이 되었으며, K-푸드 역시 하노이 거리를 채우고 있습니다. 우리는 앞으로도 지속 가능한 공동 번영의 길을 함께 개척해 나갈 것입니다. 상호 역사와 문화를 존중하는 가운데, 양국의 협력 관계가 더욱 성숙하고 미래지향적으로 발전해 나가길 기대합니다.
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NAT Nguyen@NATBLT2017·
@Jaemyung_Lee THAT WAS ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUTH. I AM VIETNAMESE-AMERICAN. VIETNAM GAINED INDEPENDENCE IN 1945. HO CHI MINH & VIET MINH WHO HAD DESTROYED THE INDEPENDENCE OF VIETNAM AND TRANSFORMED VN TO BE COMMUNIST COUNTRY. HO & VIETNAMESE COMMUNISTS NEVER FOUGHT FOR VIETNAMESE INDEPENDENCE.
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@ThreeDog4746 @SirSicCrusader Oh yes; science can’t disprove or prove any miracle, but if we were to abide by the laws of physics or science then some miracles would just be implausible (like splitting the moon, turning water into wine), but other than that we can’t experiment with or repeat miracles
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James@ThreeDog4746·
@cherbpilled @SirSicCrusader Bro you made an argument that science can't prove miracles to a post about empirical/historical evidence.
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@ThreeDog4746 @SirSicCrusader I don’t really get what you’re trying to say here. It went from the Bible to this. What I was saying is that the standard to deduct scientific evidence is through empirical observation, which is often through the scientific method
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James@ThreeDog4746·
@cherbpilled @SirSicCrusader "scientific proof is from empirical observation through scientific method." Followed by "Dont try to claim empirical evidence..." I'm assume you meant "scientific evidence" but I never claimed that so it looks like you think scientific method is how you get empirical.
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@ThreeDog4746 @SirSicCrusader I said scientific proof COMES from empirical evidence/observation bro. You’re not even arguing whether the historical evidence of Jesus being divine is real anymore at this point
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James@ThreeDog4746·
@cherbpilled @SirSicCrusader 1. You basically just said scientific proof is a part of empirical evidence so don't claim any other empirical evidence. Learn what empirical is 2. Are you just gonna make more claims about things you don't understand? I clearly believe in the Bible so what is your next argument?
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@ThreeDog4746 @SirSicCrusader Scientific proof comes from empirical observation through the scientific method. Don’t even try to claim empirical evidence exists for a divine being; also if you didn’t say miracles only happened under Jesus, does this mean you believe in miracles from other figures like Buddha?
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James@ThreeDog4746·
@cherbpilled @SirSicCrusader Sorry I can't just write an entire book in Twitter. Recommend learning history, understanding philosophy, understanding how scientific proof works... Sorry to say, but even how to read English. I never said miracles only happened under Jesus.
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@ThreeDog4746 @SirSicCrusader You’re just making claims with no evidence. Buddha had hundreds of students that supposedly witnessed him perform miracles. Muhammad also supposedly had hundreds or thousands of people witness him perform miracles; it’s no different from Jesus.
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James@ThreeDog4746·
@cherbpilled @SirSicCrusader 1. Jesus has evidence for resurrection. Muhammad has evidence of lies. Buddhism (the best way I can put) is simply philosophy with no evidence. 2. How do you scientifically prove God or a miracle of God? 3. Science doesn't objectively give people value when we clearly do.
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