@drterrysimpson @dkegel LA had some of the strictest "shelter-in-place" orders in the country. So are you saying they *did* work to flatten the curve, or they *didn't*?
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Oh really - well, I was in LA - a physician worked in the ICU and saw what happened and charted it. You are going to do some "research" - please. We lived it, you have no idea and instead of asking questions about the experience think you have an answer. Your confidence outruns your knowledge
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Wrong metric.
Covid Vaccines weren’t meant to erase waves—they were meant to decouple infection from hospitalization and death.
They did.
Mary Talley Bowden MD@MaryBowdenMD
The COVID shot did not flatten the curve, and you don’t need a degree in statistics to understand that.
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@EliasToufexis I never understood the Last Jedi hate. All of that hate should have been focused on Rise of Skywalker
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I can't figure out if vaccines work or not.
Tough one.
Need Sherlock Holmes on this one.
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@drterrysimpson @dkegel Where do you think "flatten the curve" worked for hospital admissions? Give the location (city, state, country...) and time frame. We'll compare the locations you like to other similar locations that didn't shelter-in-place and see how things turned out.
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@johnjhorton I work in a tech-related industry and I've already seen positions that would have required entry-level programmers and administrators get eliminated in favor of AI.
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Going to write a tweet that might be mercilessly dunked on later: I think concerns about job loss+AI are wildly overblown & the economy will be great for workers + consumers generally, including new workers, *especially* in a world where AI capabilities keep improving.
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@dkegel @drterrysimpson Yes, but the point is that originally the Covid vaccines *were* promoted as reducing infections (and flattening curves). So it's disingenuous to say they "weren't meant" to, as if there was an agreed upon objective for them at the time.
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@cineburk @drterrysimpson Well, then you should quote health experts who were talking about vaccine efficacy (Fauci was talking about mask policy) and who weren't contradicted immediately by the CDC. The vaccine definitely made a big dent in deaths and hospitalizations, which is a good thing.
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@dkegel @drterrysimpson We're not talking about mask policy. We're talking about whether or not, in 2021, Public Health experts (and Biden) were telling people that the vaccines would "erase waves." The quotes I've provided show that this was the messaging.
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@cineburk @drterrysimpson He supported the mask policy, i.e. "vaccinated people no longer need to mask", which I think was a sensible one at the time. Do you disagree?
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@AlastairMcA30 @ELTAuthor @MForstater There are rankings and awards based (supposedly) on biological sex. Do you understand why they would have a different division for biological women?
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@ELTAuthor @MForstater It’s not an athletic event. It’s a fun run.
No one is doing any “policing.”
So what do you propose? Screening birth certificates? Impromptu genital checks?
Why not just let trans people compete as they feel comfortable? Why so hostile to their presence?
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@Windowinspace @trailmix69 @DrNeilStone International travel has no bearing on infection rates of a virus that is already prevalent. If two countries already have the virus spreading, traveling between them doesn't increase transmission.
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@cineburk @trailmix69 @DrNeilStone Bear in mind also that Jan-March 2022 international travel restrictions were eased so there was an uptick as a result.
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@dkegel @drterrysimpson Walensky's statement was in March. It was "walked back" a few days later. Then in July (when Delta was already prevelant) Biden said "You're not going to get covid if you have these vaccinations." That was the narrative at the time. Sorry.
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@cineburk @drterrysimpson The CDC walked her comments right back. The ny times wrote:
“Dr. Walensky spoke broadly during this interview,” an agency spokesman told The Times.
Here's more context:
reuters.com/article/fact-c…
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@Tenzin24Tenzin @matthewdmarsden Ah, that makes sense. I'm a typical American and assumed we were talking about America :)
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@cineburk @matthewdmarsden I’m British. I was a teenager when we got a landline telephone. One company only BT super expensive. We had one telly. The VCR tapes only recorded for 45 minutes. Again monumentally expensive. When the Blockbuster shops opened we bought a JVC video player it was a months salary
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Its hard for the kids now to understand what a big deal this show was.
RetroNewsNow@RetroNewsNow
📺The miniseries 'V' began airing 43 years ago, May 1, 1983, on NBC
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If you think rent control is an unjustifiable, destructive policy choice that benefits one small group of people while harming many others, I have bad news for you about unregulated rent
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I bought a plug-in hybrid but even with its very limited all-electric range and just plugging into a conventional outlet for charging, we use so little gasoline that the car keeps giving us warnings about it going stale.
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@commie_trucker Did you just now figure out that you're not going to get rich sitting behind the wheel of a truck for 50-60 hours a week for 20 years? I mean, you could have done the math 20 years ago and saved yourself the trouble.
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I’ve worked 50-60 hours a week for the last 20 years in order to support my family, while my employers have gotten rich off my labor. Yet I’m lazy and entitled and my bosses are entrepreneurial and hardworking.
BM@Based_Mexican69
@commie_trucker Laziness paired with envy & entitlement creates communists.
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@luigi_mjr @IshrionA No, we were going to Tijuana! We took an Uber from the airport to the border, crossed on foot, then took an Uber to our hotel.
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United Airlines to commence new route from Los Angeles (LAX) to Bakersfield (BFL) with 1 daily Embraer 175 from August 11.
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@dkegel @drterrysimpson Here's Walensky (head of CDC): "“Anyone who is fully vaccinated can participate in indoor and outdoor activities, large or small, without wearing a mask or physical distancing." cnbc.com/2021/05/13/cdc…
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@cineburk @drterrysimpson He was quoting somebody else, to explain mask guidance. Here's more context:
nbcnews.com/news/us-news/f…
Also, that remark was made before the more transmissible Delta variant was even named.
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@Tenzin24Tenzin @matthewdmarsden Were you alive in 1983? By then, VCRs were everywhere. During the 1970s they were rare and for the "rich". But every town of any meaningful size had a rental store by 1983.
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I genuinely — and I do mean genuinely — feel sorry for all those who could watch watch this and see it as anything less than the most perfect goodbye to Luke possible. This is what you get when a filmmaker has something to say that’s louder than what the studio has to sell.
cinesthetic.@TheCinesthetic
Luke Skywalker’s stand on Crait in The Last Jedi (2017) had the whole theater locked.
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