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Μέλος Ἀπόλλωνι · Αἰολικὸς μικτὸς δακτυλοεπιτρίτῳ

@husafell_stone I wish I could but the ugly layout and fonts stop me

Man do I finally have to start a substonk and subscribe and stuff

@sea_of_nihilism “1. Pardo”

Minhas identidades em grau de prioridades: 1. Pardo 2. Brasileiro (pride) 3. Ortodoxo (missão divina) 4. Árabe (ancestralidade distante) 5. Paulistano (identidade regional) 6. Jiu jiteiro (missão espiritual) 7. Armeno (herança de alma) 8. Espanhol (ancestralidade nao distante)

It does not read like that. The grammar is unblemished: wrath in accusative, Goddess in vocative, Achilles in genitive. The word order is changed for poetic effect, creating prolepsis and hyperbaton, which are perfectly grammatical in Greek. Please limit your two cents to the languages you actually know.

But aren't these points measurable and documented? Greek is indeed spoken and tirelessly written in the same lands with unbelievable continuity. And the pronunciation changes are another proof of the natural development. If Greeks now had the same pronunciation as in 8c BC it would be artificial, as much artificial as an Anglo-Saxon reconstructing the pronunciation of Homeric Greek. So whoever thinks that a reconstructed pronunciation gives to any scholar or hobbyist any advantage on "mastering" the Greek language, he should reconstruct a pronunciation in EVERY SINGLE text he tries to read based on the area and era it was written.

Added a variation in the third and sixth lines of the strophes; I thought they sounded too monotonous. I tried with all my might to create a variation in the first lines of each strophe, within the register, meter, and poesy, but it got the upper hand over me I think @parjanyudu should do a recitation pls I am too shy for this

Μέλος Ἀπόλλωνι · Αἰολικὸς μικτὸς δακτυλοεπιτρίτῳ

@Didaskalos71166 @parjanyudu Were the San Diego and Welsh grandfather and Druidic blood anecdotes really necessary?

@parjanyudu to "Homer's Day" (!), and Daitz doing his best to follow Allen, and me doing my best to follow Daitz. But Daitz was a New York city man who went to Harvard & Yale; I'm a middle-class kid from San Diego, whose grandfather was Welsh, which is my source of Druidic blood.

Homer's Iliad Book 1 Lines 1-27 in Restored Ancient Greek Meter, Pitch Accents & Pronunciation with English translation.

@CorpusMagus @latinedisce @elyawda I know Latin.

@latinedisce @elyawda *Frantically uploading screenshots of pages to AI* (It comes out as a hodgepodged Necromancy Text) *Everyone believes the AI Hallucination bcuz nobody knows Latin*

And it may take a while to learn Latin, but one day I will learn Latin and switch from the 1611 King James Bible Facsimile and read the Latin Vulgate

You’re acting like that ‘noemonas’ dude isn’t quite literally arguing that the pronunciation has NOT changed since 5th century BCE Greece, which is absurd. Yes, here you brought up valid points: the language much loved by us has been very much alive and has nuanced variations across the centuries and locations. But your point ultimately does not negate that it’s a valid exercise to think of important texts (e.g. the Homeric poems) in their specific reconstructed phonology, without Greeks getting super worked up about it.

@ClittBeastwood @aidannonx @Howlingmutant0 Yes

@aidannonx @Howlingmutant0 You’re attracted to him?

If that were my sister she’d be having a kid with fuckin flippers

@urso_bruto @litteraechristi First time I read AI-wall-of-text in Latin. Holy larp.

Hae sunt primae meae cogitationes de hac quaestione, quae nondum satis maturae sunt, ut invitus fateor. Si historiam intellectualem modernam ex prospectu catholico consideremus, prima responsa doctrinalia magis ad Bonum et Verum quam ad Pulchrum spectant. In Syllabo Errorum (1864), propositiones damnatae ad veritatem et ordinem moralem pertinent. Negant enim nonnullae quod ratio humana certam cognitionem veritatis religiosae attingere possit; affirmant omnes religiones aequales esse; separant legem moralem a Deo vel a natura obiectiva. Haec omnia ad Verum pertinent, ut realitatem intelligibilem, et ad Bonum, ut ordinem moralem obiectivum in Deo fundatum. Contra, nulla comparabilis attentio magisterialis ad culturam visualem vel ad aesthetica in hoc tempore invenitur. Non quia neglecta est, sed quia nondum erat problema centrale quod formalem doctrinam requireret. Saeculo undevicesimo exeunte, motus sicut Impressionismus et Pointillismus adhuc principia classica ordinis, perceptionis et intelligibilitatis servant, etsi strictam repraesentationem paulatim relaxant. Ruptura autem vera in forma visuali cum initio saeculi vicesimi apparet. Tunc Cubismus, Expressionismus et Surrealismus repraesentationem et harmoniam deliberato modo dissolvunt. Opera sicut Guernica Picassii et compositiones surrealisticae Salvador Dalí ad hanc aetatem pertinent. Secundum hanc rationem, mutatio Pulchri in artibus posterius apparet quam controversiae de Vero et Bono. Ruptura igitur non est initium, sed posterior et magis visibilis manifestatio interiorum mutationum iam antea coeptarum. P.S. Fateor hoc mihi fuisse difficile, sed catharticum. Coactus sum cogitationes meas ad ordinem et necessitatem precisionis redigere, quae iam non sponte fluunt, ut olim, cum Latine frequentius scriberem; nunc autem magis linguis recentioribus utor, Anglica, Hispanica vel Gallica.

“Pulchrum est quod vīsum placet” - Aristoteles

Why would you think I’d skim a Wikipedia article just to reply to a stranger on Twitter? You might be as idiotic and self-aggrandizing as Augustine when he wrote his memoir; of course, minus his superb Latin mastery. As for your other remarks, we either have read different books, or our definitions for those terms are divergent. I don't know what to say.

@coltraneist Literally the whole story is about how he wasn’t religious until he converted. How quickly did you skim the Wikipedia page

Misreading Augustine's Confessions this badly might be a crime of some sort.

@LateHaveILoved “Whoa I’m so distressed that the whole world can’t relate to a guy with mommy issues who was so religious and yet couldn’t stay by himself and chaste for a minute without melting down.”

I'm heavily biased but I genuinely believe that you can't read this public confession of a broken man and not understand what hes going through as a man.

Tertium illud in sermōne Latīnō dēclīnātiōnis nōminum genus artificiōsum crēdī posse, rīdiculum profectō est exīstimāre; quod sī ita sē habēret, tamquam lūsum quendam ab artifice in discentēs excōgitātum licēret intuērī!

@RodrigoBrinca @veritasluxmea77 Deveria procurar um curso para tratar a tua amargura

@veritasluxmea77 Depende de como e para quem é feito, não? Fora disso vira poliglotismo performático.

Acho válido para o aprendizado de idioma, mas sempre que alguém vem com “vou ministrar o curso nessa língua morta” penso que charlatanice segue firme e forte. Vai lá, usa o AirPlay em grego clássico para ver sua apresentação na tela, filhão.

@litteraechristi Ele é excepcional no contexto da língua portuguesa (cuja métrica não é lá essas coisas). E Tucídides fica sem menção alguma? Olha, olha!!!

@coltraneist Coloquei o Vieira ali em sua homenagem 😉

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It is not really necessary to ‘listen to’ closely when the difference is blatant. It is as different as the speeches of a Californian and the speech of a Londoner. Yes, I know what you implied. I rather pointed out how jarring it is to set up expectations or ‘hopes’ when you lack basic comprehension of Latin. You likely cannot even roll your Rs. Just quit the LARP and spare us from your impertinent anecdotes; especially pertaining subjects wherein you are clearly incompetent.

@coltraneist @litteraechristi 1. I didn’t listen that closely, and 2., while colloquially, what I said might imply some expectation or insistence that he meets some standard, I literally just meant that I hoped he distinguished the vowel lengths😒 next time, be more charitable, ass🙄

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@sewell_herb @litteraechristi That’s quite an amusing requirement for someone who cannot differentiate an obvious Ecclesiastical pronunciation from the reconstructed.

@litteraechristi Well, I'm sure you know what you're doing, but I hope you at least respect long/short vowels.

@coltraneist Exoptatum te excipient. :)

In caelō Latīnē cum caelicolīs colloquēmur. Mox illīc versābimur.