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Charles Hoskinson
Charles Hoskinson@IOHK_Charles·
This has nothing to do with Ketamine. It's about stability and payroll. You people aren't getting it. If proposals don't pass, then layoffs happen. This is how business works. Dreps are willing to destroy years of progress and incredible talent because of a temporary downturn. They will make it permanent. Ada will collapse if it loses its core USPs
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Honestly, Cardano can win. Self sabotage is not good. Focus on adding in more users. Everyone in their own way is doing their part. I'm not so much into the Governance aspect I'll leave that to others. I'm in the meme sector the fun sector. I want people to join the $SNEK Community and use the @snekdotfun API. I want people to drink some more @snek_energy when they're low on energy. I want people to use @snekx_io if they're wanting to create their own supply of tokens here on Cardano. Not focused on the negative noise. Instead, I'll stay focused on the fun side. Bring back the 23'-24' Cardano vibes. Would I love to see @IOHK_Charles take some Ketamine and go wolf mode again? Absolutely I would. Cardano has a very big chance to do good. Learning from POLKADOT on Governance on what not to do. Learning about Ethereum and making sure we don't fall down either. I hope we could all get along. I hope we can make things fun again. I hope we could enjoy each others company again.
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THE WHOLE POINT WAS TO NOT BE LIKE POLITICIANS WTF ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE
Jason Appleton (Crypto Crow)@jasonappleton

So politicians can campaign and waste billions of dollars trying to sway voters into their favor in the name of Democracy but if a Blockchain Founder who literally builds a system for Democracy empowering the public over himself tries to express his concern with how voting is going over much needed funds, explaining the potential disturbances of said voting if it were to remain, they suddenly are Blackmailers? As a Drep, someone responsible for bringing countless people and other influencers into the Cardano ecosystem and being a bag holder myself, I of course care very much about how treasury funds are distributed, how its used and the processes associated with these practices. There are certainly changes that need to be made overall, over time of which I'm sure will happen as institutions continue accumulating, launching new investment vehicles and continue taking power away from the every day lamens that sell their bags on FUD induced by competing chains, bots and other influences affecting the overall sentiment of Cardano in this bearish market cycle. As I see it, Cardano is just now starting to come into its own in a sea of build fast/break things and buy the narrative. Cardano was built for the very use cases in growing demand today beyond just defi and gimmicks. Interoperability, identity, compliant transactions, etc are all major needs growing exponentially and as they demands are met by the tech that is Cardano and Midnight, more major whales and players will be taking a more active approach in the governance of the ecosystem and rightfully so. Sadly, too many people who have never started or ran a company before are trying to dictate what a major L1 blockchain should be or should not be doing with their funds out of fear that their bags, already down due to the transition from Tradfi to Defi is happening in front of our eyes is also causing confusion in the alt coin space and thus creating levels of fear I've not seen since 2017. Too many people are treating this bearish cycle like Ganggreen and opting to cut out the heart in hopes of saving the body, not realizing that this shakeout of retail is by design and even after all of these years of IOG coming through (even while late often) and while learning from mistakes made that get adjusted for over time aren't doing everything possible to benefit us all. The truth is, we are reaching record high Whale accumulation for a reason. Retail doesn't get it while institutions are loving it and I dont believe it will be much longer before these groups show themselves and begin taking internal steps at affecting major change in the voting processes and we begin seeing Dreps with voting power into the billions as the rest of us then begin barking at how flawed the system is for allowing such a thing to happen, as the next narrative induced by whomever fears the growth of Cardano. Quite frankly, I embrace it even if that means reducing the power of my own Drep status in the process. Their either needs to be MANY more Dreps in positions of authority, or more educated institutions that utilize Cardano and Midnight and use their accumulations of both to affect more wisdom and less toxicity into the Treasury voting processes. Now is the time to build and prepare harder than ever as we embark on historical changes to Tradfi and the Blockchain space. I understand many of the arguments such as "stop bundling what appears wasteful with what is useful to force favorable voting", welcome to politics. There is no other blockchain designed through its research and peer review to be more in line with the needs of today as those needs change and expand into the needs of tomorrow and that is because of the Heart of Cardano and its arms and legs that are Midnight. I really believe everyone needs to calm down some and look back on what has been accomplished, how these two chains are primed for what is coming and have some faith that not only does the anonymous troll on your wall with 200 followers doesn't have a clue what they are talking about but that the hundreds of engineers across the country, do and they need to keep active and making the progress necessary to STAY AHEAD of everyone else without letting those now trying to emulate what Cardano and Midnight has done, catch up. This is OUR time to be first to market with something the world actually needs and I'll be damned if I let this opportunity slip past me over funds that wont matter anyway if we lose our positioning. That's all I have to say. Be well and Crow Your Coins.

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1. Please enlighten me on btc defi products live on cardano that came from io 2. “Under development.” How long do we have to fund development before it’s acceptable to demand results? 3. Usdc has 80k liquidity. Snekfun shitters have more liquidity. Fireblocks was iagon I thought?
🪏 Jonah Koch@jonahkoch

@cryptypo @masatoalexander 1. We have two BTC DeFi Projects 2. Leios is under 24 hour dev cycle (engineering.iog.io/leios) 3. Plath, Fireblocks, USDCx Try harder, that 0-3 comment is so outdated it’s on last season reruns. Try something new on there is still plenty to complain about

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And really this isn’t even the main point. Complete the integrations from the first round of funding and then we can talk 2nd round of funding. wtf are we doing here?
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For most of recent tech history, research only became commercially powerful when it translated into products, infrastructure, or breakthroughs that people actually used. That’s the issue with Cardano. It has spent years positioning itself as the research-first blockchain, but the practical outcomes still look weak: limited user adoption, limited enterprise traction, limited liquidity, and few applications with mainstream relevance. I’m not saying research has no value. I’m saying after this many years, the burden of proof shifts. If the research is truly world-class and practically useful, where is the adoption? Where are the products? Where are the enterprises, governments, developers, and users choosing Cardano because the research made it meaningfully better? Funding researchers matters only if the research compounds into real-world utility. Otherwise, it’s just prestige without product-market fit.
Dr.oz 🪏@1Exit_Liquidity

Charles isn’t threatening the community. He’s explaining reality. Elite researchers and engineers do not stay without stable funding and long term support. You cannot demand world class innovation while voting against the teams building the foundation of Cardano.

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Dave
Dave@ItsDave_ADA·
With 67 million ADA voting power, I just voted NO on the treasury withdrawal: Cardano Critical Integrations V2 On behalf of my loyal delegates Rationale I am formally registering a NO vote on the Cardano Critical Integrations V2 Treasury Withdrawal. Whilst maintaining core infrastructure is undeniably important, I cannot support a request of this magnitude given the glaring issues surrounding both technical delivery and professional conduct. Firstly, I categorically refuse to authorise twenty three million ADA for a second iteration when numerous integrations from the initial funding round remain glaringly unfinished. The fact that Intersect has administratively classed the first phase as closed does not alter the reality on the ground that the original scope of work is incomplete. A public Treasury should never issue secondary funding while primary deliverables remain undelivered. The community expects absolute technical completion before any subsequent capital is unlocked. Compounding this issue is the proposal's financial structure, which once again sweeps over twenty million ADA into an opaque bucket entirely devoid of granular accountability. Furthermore, I must express my profound disappointment regarding the highly unprofessional conduct displayed by certain contributors to this proposal across our social channels. Cardano is a mature, professional ecosystem, and we fiercely protect our reputation and brand integrity. When individuals approach the public Treasury to request millions of dollars in community funds, we expect them to conduct themselves to the absolute highest standards of professionalism and decorum. The recent behaviour witnessed in the community falls drastically short of this mark and is fundamentally unacceptable. Until the outstanding deliverables from the first budget are fully completed on mainnet, and the individuals representing these proposals demonstrate the maturity and respect expected of enterprise infrastructure stewards, I will not support this withdrawal. Transaction cexplorer.io/tx/8e9b741b9f2…
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Kat
Kat@TheRealWeb3Kat·
This practice of calling out DReps in public for how they're voting needs to stop, today. It is unacceptable and has no place in decentralized governance. Promote your proposals, lobby for votes, call out systemic issues, start dialogues about things that need to be addressed. DO NOT CALL OUT DReps for how they voted. Publicly targeting representatives for individual votes creates pressure and intimidation. DReps should be free to vote based on conviction and what they believe is best for the ecosystem, without fear of harassment campaigns or public pile-ons every time someone disagrees with them. STOP. Thank you for attending my Ted Talk 🫡
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Rodrigo P₳cini | Agora Research | dRep
A 50% ADA price drop is a doom-and-gloom framing, not an objective risk model. You are treating a political threat from IOR as if it were a market-certainty scenario, but there is no evidence that “research disruption = 50% price collapse.” Ethereum is a useful counterexample here. In June 2025, the Ethereum Foundation restructured its Protocol R&D division, laid off some staff, and rebranded it as “Protocol.” That was a major research/org event in one of the largest ecosystems in crypto. ETH did not collapse 50%. In fact, the market barely treated it as an existential event. ETH was reported up around 5% the next day, and historical monthly data shows ETH moving from roughly $1.7k–$2.8k in May 2025 to roughly $2.4k–$3.9k in July 2025. So the claim that Cardano rejecting one oversized and bundled IOR proposal could trigger a 50% ADA crash is pure speculation. It may be politically convenient speculation, but it is still speculation. The real issue is governance precedent. If a proposer can bundle valuable research with weakly justified work, then threaten to shut down the valuable parts unless the whole package passes, DReps should not reward that behavior by treating the threat as an objective market risk. That is not risk management. That is governance capture through fear. If Leios and quantum resistance research are truly critical, they should be submitted as focused, defensible, high-priority proposals. The answer to a bad bundle is not to normalize bad bundling forever because someone framed rejection as apocalypse. Cardano needs research. Cardano also needs budget discipline, transparency, and the ability to say no to COERCIVE proposal design and FEAR political tactics.
YUTA-Cardano/CPA(DMは全て詐欺)@yutazzz

I am voting "Abstain" on the proposal for "Cardano Vision 2026: Human Centred, Scalable, Post Quantum Secure - IO Research." I believe this proposal is a mix of a waste of funds and a potentially excellent proposal for Leios and quantum resistance research, and I wanted it resubmitted and split. However, the IOR has promised never to resubmit and has promised to close down leios and quantum-resistant research labs if the proposal is rejected. As some members have suggested, this may be a political maneuver by the IOR, but it may not be. If not, I believe that news of a complete halt to the research will spread, and the ADA could fall by more than 50% due to the departure of holders who were involved in purchasing under the guise of peer review. Therefore, our choice is as follows: A. Tolerate some seemingly pointless research as a sacrifice to gain access to research on Leios and quantum resistance. B-1. Reject the proposal, betting on a resubmission, with an X% probability of the resubmission occurring. B-2. Reject the proposal, betting on a (1-X)% chance of a resubmission, but all labs closing and an ADA 50%+drop event occurring. The ideal scenario is B-1, but the worst-case scenario is B-2, and the probability of this is difficult to predict as it depends on the political decisions of the IOR team. At the very least, since the IOR has promised closures, this is a high-risk gamble. While I acknowledge that B-1 is ideal, I cannot accept the risk of the B-2 event, so I withdraw my NO. While I find this emotionally very frustrating, we need to consider it objectively, focusing on the practical gains and losses for the entire ecosystem. On the other hand, I understand the argument that it is absurd to actively approve a budget that includes what I believe to be a waste of money. Based on this feedback, I withdraw my YES. Therefore, my final vote is Abstain. I hope the IOR will improve its operations next year.

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Unforeseeable 7️⃣@Unforeseeable_7·
Seems like @MidnightNtwrk is not allowing $night claims. Weeks and they haven’t solved a simple claim portal. These are some of the same people requesting nearly 350,000,000 $ADA from the treasury. You think they are capable of what they state given they cant fix a small bug?
V E S P R@vesprwallet

@Unforeseeable_7 As the message says, this is unfortunately outside of our control. We have been raising this issue with the midnight team for months.

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$cash@CashAnvil

Woke up to day 2 of a dumpster fire. I really don't know why I try sometimes. The thing that is going to happen to the researchers if IO's Research proposal doesn't get approved will be the same thing that happens to the community if it does. It's not a hard concept. People want transparency, they want rates, they want overhead costs. You can't sit here and and say you will have to fire everyone without also showing the costs. It's a false reality, purely guilt driven, that gives the community nothing to stand on but to blindly vote yes. Several outspoke developers have spoken out for multiple years now on the Research stuff. I have not seen a single thing change. It's still a bloated docket. My only question is why not listen? 2 years of feedback and seemingly none of it heard. Now we are at ultimatum point again. Instead of just working through the budgetary concerns and reproposing, we are met with vote for me or i quit. I hate it here. CF tried to do it too. It's such a weak move to me. It's wild, where is the concession? Where is the willingness to work with dReps? Everything just seems so one sided. Where is the market awareness? We are in the worst spot we have been in as a chain. Spent a shitload of ADA last year with no results. The community has the right to be mad, we have the right to ask questions, and we have the right to ask for more financial clarity or changes to the proposal. Everyone is supposed to be held to the same standard when it comes to the treasury. I support IO, i think they are a critical part of the ecosystem that should be funded. I was happy to see the IO: Cardano Upgrades proposal get across this morning, albeit i still think costs could of been covered better in ALL IO proposals. I love seeing the FEs getting back together and vote on all of eachothers proposals, that's a very cool thing and super decentralized. Thankfully our FEs still control enough power to push whatever they want over the line. I'm probably killing my chances of my proposal with all this i just can't hold back any longer and watch the whole united states government system recreated on Cardano, by the same people who cry all the time about the US government being corrupt.

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$cash@CashAnvil·
Woke up to day 2 of a dumpster fire. I really don't know why I try sometimes. The thing that is going to happen to the researchers if IO's Research proposal doesn't get approved will be the same thing that happens to the community if it does. It's not a hard concept. People want transparency, they want rates, they want overhead costs. You can't sit here and and say you will have to fire everyone without also showing the costs. It's a false reality, purely guilt driven, that gives the community nothing to stand on but to blindly vote yes. Several outspoke developers have spoken out for multiple years now on the Research stuff. I have not seen a single thing change. It's still a bloated docket. My only question is why not listen? 2 years of feedback and seemingly none of it heard. Now we are at ultimatum point again. Instead of just working through the budgetary concerns and reproposing, we are met with vote for me or i quit. I hate it here. CF tried to do it too. It's such a weak move to me. It's wild, where is the concession? Where is the willingness to work with dReps? Everything just seems so one sided. Where is the market awareness? We are in the worst spot we have been in as a chain. Spent a shitload of ADA last year with no results. The community has the right to be mad, we have the right to ask questions, and we have the right to ask for more financial clarity or changes to the proposal. Everyone is supposed to be held to the same standard when it comes to the treasury. I support IO, i think they are a critical part of the ecosystem that should be funded. I was happy to see the IO: Cardano Upgrades proposal get across this morning, albeit i still think costs could of been covered better in ALL IO proposals. I love seeing the FEs getting back together and vote on all of eachothers proposals, that's a very cool thing and super decentralized. Thankfully our FEs still control enough power to push whatever they want over the line. I'm probably killing my chances of my proposal with all this i just can't hold back any longer and watch the whole united states government system recreated on Cardano, by the same people who cry all the time about the US government being corrupt.
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Thomas Kirkpatrick
Thomas Kirkpatrick@TomDKirkpatrick·
@cardanado @cryptypo @NaVi_GaT0R @grok how many years did it take Amazon, Google to be profitable? How long did engineers workers take pay cuts? Were the founders of the internet paid vast sums for building out that critical infrastructure in the same way a tech founder is?
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Bro, Charles isn’t going to sleep with you…
Chris O 🌎 Cardano DRep@TheOCcryptobro

#Cardano fam, this is ridiculous logic. I have mentally prepared myself to sell my $ADA and move elsewhere if @IOGroup proposal fails. If one of the largest DReps ultimately demonstrates absolute incompetence I am out. @yutazzz reconsider or bear the responsibility of killing Cardano. @IOHK_Charles

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@beffjezos Trump supporter shocked at anti immigrant policy…
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P₳DDY
P₳DDY@PaddyCTO·
Cardano dReps should be able to vote privately. Transparent governance is important. But there’s also a strong argument for protecting voters from social pressure, tribalism, harassment, and coordinated influence campaigns. Privacy voting on Midnight, with results/verifiability rolled up to Cardano. 🔵🌑 #Cardano #ADA #Midnight
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I’m so over Cardano but there’s 2 or 3 projects I believe in overall which is really conflicting me. Do I just sell my cnt bags and dip out to save myself the headache?
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Why? You basically said Cardano would fail. Is everything in this proposal 100% necessary for success? That seems unlikely to say the least.
Charles Hoskinson@IOHK_Charles

@yutazzz We will not resubmit if it fails

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