Ned Block

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Ned Block

Ned Block

@De_dicto

Silver Professor, Departments of Philosophy, Psychology and Center for Neural Science

New York Katılım Mayıs 2009
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Harvey Lederman
Harvey Lederman@LedermanHarvey·
Did my best to respond here, would love to hear from others (especially academic philosophers!) working closer to this area whether I'm right (would honestly be relieved to be told I'm wrong!)
Harvey Lederman@LedermanHarvey

Thanks for the engagement, @allTheYud ! Really appreciate it; never expected to see you here on this little account, and happy to have a chance to discuss. 1. Your initial post (x.com/allTheYud/stat… ) was not restricted to AI. I'm open to the idea (mostly agree, actually) that academic philosophers aren't addressing the most important practical questions about AI. But that doesn't mean they never say sensible things. Your audience will read the tweet in the general way, not as "philosophy isn't addressing AI policy" in the way you've formulated the point here. 2. From the discussion here, I take it you're conceding that you don't read much academic philosophy, so the general pronouncement about the state of the field wasn't based in the evidence. This seems at odds with a policy of speaking only when one has good evidence. Perhaps that's not a principle that a rational Bayesian would uphold? I know questions about the game theory of communication and whether one should speak the truth are a bit hard to make come out in an intuitive way in the theory. 3. You're absolutely right that I was thinking of FDT in my comment. I stopped reading you around the time of FDT because I was very disappointed by your responses to what seemed to me devastating objections both to the intelligibility of the core ideas in the theory, and to the theory charitably interpreted (e.g. here: lesswrong.com/posts/ySLYSsNe…). I'm frankly surprised the theory is still so seriously discussed. Maybe there's been progress on it, and I'm out of date, but at the time what I saw was confused enough and unserious in its engagement with objections that it seemed to me to be a waste of my intellectual energy to try to keep up. If there's a summary of how these problems have been addressed, that reflects your current views, I'd be glad to be pointed to it and would reconsider if I felt it rose to the (high) standard of intellectual honesty and charity in this area of academic philosophy. 4. It's the job of any serious author to determine whether what they are saying can be upheld in the face of objections and/or really does represent a new idea in the literature. It's not the job of academics to provide citations for everyone on the internet who thinks they have a new idea.

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11 inches so far
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@abakcus Dots are different.
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Brianna Wu
Brianna Wu@BriannaWu·
Shocked that NYT, WSJ and WaPo do not have headline coverage of the protests in Iran. The IRGC falling would be one of the best events for American national security in my lifetime. American support for the protesters would be meaningful. Why is mainstream media not interested in covering it?
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Eric Schwitzgebel
Eric Schwitzgebel@eschwitz·
Two Dimensionalism about Other Minds, and Its Implications for Brain Organoids and Robots [link in thread] Two-dimensionalism says that we're justified in attributing consciousness to others only when *both* their physiology and their functional/behavioral patterns are similar.
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Ned Block
Ned Block@De_dicto·
from Sally Kornbluth's letter to Trump: "...In that free marketplace of ideas, the people of MIT gladly compete with the very best, without preferences. Therefore, with respect, we cannot support the proposed approach to addressing the issues facing higher education."
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@salr_nyc I don’t recall any student who looked like your picture
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The Senior Risk Manager
The Senior Risk Manager@salr_nyc·
@De_dicto Holy smokes! i'd have thought you have retired by now. I took your minds and machines course and you were my undergrad advisor for a short period when higgenbotham was away. Nice run across you here. Be well! I often think about building 20 🌝
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biological realizers, or both, is crucial for assessing the prospects of consciousness in AI and less complex animals.
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Stuart Hameroff
Stuart Hameroff@StuartHameroff·
Ned You omitted mention of Orch OR, the only theory of consciousness that IS about actual meat machines, All animal and plant cells have microtubules inside cells which are computational, organize cell interiors and are the target of general anesthetics which selectively block consciousness. Orch OR has more experimental support than all the theories you mention combined!! academic.oup.com/nc/article/202…
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New paper: Can Only Meat Machines be Conscious? Free link until November 26th: authors.elsevier.com/a/1luwh4sIRvW-… 1/

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