DBook Propaganda

@shambalor @mightydudbolt If only there was some overarching thing happening in the background. Maybe the rebirth of an ancient order of dark side users rivaling the Jedi and pulling the strings in the background. A Phantom Menace some might call them.

@mightydudbolt Actually it seemed to be a very mundane cause for all this interstellar adventure.

Okay, here's where George Lucas went wrong: So first, he called the antagonist group the Trade Federation. The average viewer should immediately understand their function and role in the galaxy, right? This is what we call economical storytelling. They're the TRADE FEDERATION. Wrong. The average viewer is too stupid to understand this. And it gets worse from there. Because even if the average viewer WAS able to understand that the Trade Federation is, in fact, a powerful group controlling trade in the galaxy, they would then immediately become confused by the concept of the Trade Federation blocking the flow of trade to a planet. This is because the average person is too stupid to understand the concept of foregoing immediate gratification for the prospect of long-term gain. So the logical implications of what the Trade Federation is doing, which would be obvious to most of us intelligent viewers who understand bargaining leverage, would still be completely beyond the capacities of the average viewer. Basically, Lucas wildly overestimated the intelligence of the general audience, and left too many failure points where the average viewer would become completely lost. It's his own fault really. We cannot blame the stupid for their own incapacity. They can't help it.

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Definitely don’t hate you. Farthest from it.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon 🤣🤣🤣🤣 You really have no idea what it's like talking with someone who *genuinely believes you are going to suffer for all eternity* Like... you hate me, man! Lmfao

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Didn't God create the tree of knowledge? Is that not literally God inventing the possibility of sin to begin with? Adam and Eve didn't create the tree.

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I’m sorry you feel that way. Truly. I hope you change your mind about that one day.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I want you to say "the concept of hell is childish, of course it isn't real"

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I mean I hope you don’t but what do you want me to say? “PLEASE ACCEPT JESUS PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE.” You’ve clearly heard the spiel plenty of times and have made your choice. You’re talking to me like a carnival side show, and that’s fine. That’s your choice.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I'm going to suffer for all eternity but "it's not that deep" alright man whatever you say

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon “Objectively true?” No not really. I think it’s one of the best theories we have of origins. It’s not without its flaws, but all theories do.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Do you accept that evolution is objectively true?

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Im just answering questions man it’s really not that deep. I know im never going to convince you of anything. Thats not the point. It’s a conversation on the internet. You can’t possibly have a serious conversation as deep as this is in 280 character snippets.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon A fuel source that... is destroying our environment? that serves us? Just admit this is all total nonsense and you're just grasping for whatever answer will let you not think about this too hard anymore. It's okay! It will be alright!

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I’m not “going” anywhere. I’m just saying no matter what you believe about origins acting like dinosaurs serve no purpose to modern humans is dumb no matter how you slice it

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon "if you believe in evolution" oh brother here we go

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I mean they are a fuel source for one. But also if you believe in macro evolution, a lot of modern life evolved from dinosaurs and the other life that existed in that time period. It’s not like there is no link to them.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon That doesn't really answer the question at all. How did dinosaurs serve humanity? They were wiped out hundreds of millions of years before the first human being ever existed.

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon There’s plenty I don’t know. I’m a finite mind trying to understand an infinite God. I’m just trying my best to share my understanding in as good of a faith as possible.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Finally an honest "I don't know" answer, which is the only correct answer to all of this.

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Yeah. That “service” can be different things. Some are food sources, some are companions, some serve as a cog in the food chain, some just as proof of God’s existence. But in shorthand that is required in a single tweet, they “serve” humans.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Animals exist to serve humans? Even the ones in the deepest trenches of the ocean that we've never discovered? Elephants serve humans? How, exactly?

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon God’s timing isn’t our timing. I don’t claim to know everything. But man needed time to realize they needed a savior. They needed to see their own choices and where it lead. Animals exist to serve humans. One of God’s first commands was to subdue and have dominion over the earth

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Why didn't god send his son to the garden of eden then? Why did he wait 100,000 years to send jesus? He just felt like it on that day? What about animals? Is their purpose to love christ too? Giraffes, dogs, squids, etc? What's their purpose if they can't understand christ?

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon And that’s what it boils down to in the end. You reject the premise of what life is about. That’s fine and that’s your choice. You’re free to live as you want.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Goddamn I thank the heavens every day I was not born a christian. Cannot imagine living a life as squalid and narrow as this. Holy fuck man. The point of humanity is to have a relationship with christ? That's it? Then why did god wait 100,000 years to send him?

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon You made the statement “Nobody would do that to someone they purport to love!” I said that “nobody” would because “nobody” perfectly just and loving. God is. That’s the difference between man and God (among other things)

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I said how can god love me if he's gonna torture me for eternity and you answer is "well nobody is perfectly just and perfectly loving," which means that God isn't perfectly just or perfectly loving.

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon The point of free will and the point of humans and creation as a whole is to have a relationship with Christ. The entire point is a true relationship and true love cannot be had without having a choice to NOT do either of those things.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I live however I want because God gave me the choice to live however I want to, and I'm honoring that choice he gave me? I thought that was the point of free will?

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon “Nobody is perfectly just and perfectly knowing.” I’m talking about humans. God is above humans because… well he’s God.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon So God isn't perfect? God isn't all-loving?

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Someone who does not have the capacity to understand right from wrong or understand that they are sinning cannot be held accountable for it

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon When Jesus died on the cross, the “rules changed” in essence. The veil was torn. Judaism and the sacrifices were insufficient ways to pay for our sin. Jesus made that ultimate payment. As for someone on NSI, there is what’s known as the age of accountability.

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Well nobody is perfectly just and perfectly loving. What kind of love is it if I live my life following God’s commands, and you live however you want ignoring anything God has to say, and we end up in the same place? What kind of justice is that? Actions must have consequences.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon Because he's sending to suffer *for literally eternity of torture.* Nobody would do that to someone they purport to love!

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I mean you’re getting into theology a lot more now. The concept of heaven and hell is only a couple thousand years old, after the birth and death and resurrection of Christ. The rules in the OT and prior were different.

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I'd like to hear your response to this x.com/thefurlinator/…

@thefurlinator @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon I mean I think that’s a pretty large jump. He sent His son to die for us. He gave us all a path to redemption if we accept it. He can’t FORCE you to accept His love. If you decide to live your life separate from Him, how does that prove He doesn’t love you?

@downbadvol @Reese15259616 @Mokeymokey1 @Dalmatiandragon So your god doesn't love everyone. Can we at least agree on that, then?