@cderedpanda Did you just try to erase the entire Chinese revolution from inside your baby pram?
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Fightpantz
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Fightpantz
@fightpantz
“Long time we a listen to dem idiot plan”
Occupied Awaswas Katılım Nisan 2012
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@fightpantz person who cant tell the difference between national liberation struggles and a global geopolitical power. but yea we can make anything a fill in the blank for sure. “fightexploitedpeoples” not such a good username now is it?
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@cderedpanda Or maybe they live inside a never-ending barrage of racist imperialist fantasy manufacturing and they push back on its reproduction every now and then?
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@snackvampire @VanJones68 @elicalebon The facade of invented realities is breaking down but these 2 are making such a passionate effort to maintain it. Deeply surreal but if you come across one of these in real life it’s nuts.
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@VanJones68 @elicalebon 2 employees of israel talking to each other and seeing how they can get the most number of people killed in the arab iranian region
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I wanted to bring @elicalebon into this conversation for a reason.
Too many people in the West talk about Iran without listening to people who have actually lived the consequences of this regime.
Elica isn’t speaking about this as an abstract policy debate.
Her family was imprisoned by the Islamic Republic.
Her relatives were executed.
Her family fled.
And she has spent years helping people understand what this regime has done — especially to women, dissidents and ordinary Iranians.
In this conversation, she takes on the hardest questions directly:
Why should Americans care?
What does this war have to do with everyday life here at home?
Why are so many people skeptical?
And what would it actually take for change to happen in Iran?
You may not agree with every conclusion.
But you should hear this perspective before deciding where you stand.
Watch the full conversation on Substack - open.substack.com/pub/vanjones/p…
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@snackvampire @BenBurgis Yeah I never followed his previous work closely enough to know if the current western supremacist gobbledygook was predictable or not. I know it’s well known but this shit is pervasive even among western “communists.”
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@fightpantz @BenBurgis I was skimming lol, too much shock to see him sort of get it right
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@snackvampire @BenBurgis “horrors of the Iranian regime” and “de facto colony of Israel” is still as dumb as his pro-NATO gibberish. Slip in just the right sacrosanct villains and western chauvinist axioms and you’re doing empire’s work.
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@BenBurgis well now if this isn't a sign of the apocalypse right here, zizek being on the right side
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@guspasho @bidetmarxman Do you westards ever think “maybe I should stfu just this once and refrain from the gratification of expressing my chauvinisms towards a representative of a country under half a century of US siege warfare which has killed 1/2 million of their people per year?” Or nah?
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@bidetmarxman I think this bears revisiting. He says this stuff and then hours later someone hits Oman’s oil storage tanks.
Why does he keep saying this? Why is he allowed to keep saying this?
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Arya Yadeghaar@AryJeay
Drones struck the oil storage tanks at the port of Salalah, in Oman. This is likely another false flag attack, as Iran said it would not target neighbouring countries such as Oman that do not provide facilities for US attacks on Iran.
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“Iran will make sure that gasoline and energy prices go through the roof and the global economy crumbles”
Becoming obvious why this person is invited for repeat appearances on Piers Morgan
Seyed Mohammad Marandi@s_m_marandi
If the Pedophile-in-Chief and Zionist-firster makes a wrong move, Iran will make sure that gasoline and energy prices go through the roof and the global economy crumbles. Trump will fall like the pharaoh.
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@JeanGreige Wouldn’t that require that they reject one of the very pillars of cultural hegemony, the axiomatic villain?
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I am begging Americans to even have a rightwing academic understanding of the DPRK at this point. I think Bruce Cumings is a conservative tool. I would be THRILLED if the average Americans understanding of the DPRK reflected his work. That’s how far gone most people are on this.
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@JeanGreige Wish I could find the quotation about the mandatory villains. How any number of licensed criticisms are acceptable to the hegemony as long as the correct list of villains is adhered to, eg DPRK, Iran, USSR etc. This way the primary contradiction is upheld.
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The big thread of replies when talking to liberals about the DPRK:
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@Forever_noir_ @KareemRifai Read some of the comments to the original post and holy shit bluemaga is fucking nuts over their Russian boogeyman. Cult behavior for sure
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@KareemRifai Except democrats straight up said that they’re trying to put militarized the republicans. They said it. Out of there mouths. What do y’all think they were planning to do with that militarization.
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Jill Kremlin kicking up is the unofficial indicator that election season is in full swing
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@PahlaviReza Your daddy was the worst kind of comprador, put in place by the CIA to secure oil rights. His US-trained secret police tortured students but you are somehow even more boot-lickingly pathetic, Connecticut pajama boy.
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My dear students, brave daughters and sons of Iran,
You have unified the reopening of the universities with the resounding cry of the nation and demonstrated the unbreakable bond between the university and the people. You showed that Iran lives on and that the will of the nation cannot be silenced.
Nearly fifty years ago, my father foresaw how future generations would judge him and his service. Today, you have given history its answer. His spirit is at peace, because he sees that the children of Iran are awake and, with courage and clarity, are standing up to reclaim Iran.
Remain united. Stand firm. Do not allow a false image of normalcy to be made of our wounded homeland. As long as our people are being killed, our sisters and brothers are sentenced to execution, and our mothers and fathers, spouses and children are in mourning; as long as this dark night has not come to an end, and Iran has not been freed from the grip of this occupying regime, nothing is normal and our struggle will not end.
Know that the future belongs to you — to you who chose not remain silent, who rose and stood firm. Together, we will reclaim Iran and rebuild it once again.
Long live Iran!
Victory to the Lion and Sun Revolution of the Iranian nation!
Reza Pahlavi@PahlaviReza
فرزندان دانشجویم، دختران و پسران شجاع ایران، شما بازگشایی دانشگاهها را به فریاد بلند ملت بدل کردید و پیوند استوار دانشگاه و ملت را به نمایش گذاشتید. شما نشان دادید که ایران زنده است و اراده ملت خاموششدنی نیست. پدرم نزدیک به پنجاه سال پیش پیشبینی کرده بود که نسلهای آینده درباره او و خدماتش چگونه داوری خواهند کرد. امروز، شما پاسخ تاریخ را دادید. روح او در آرامش است، چون میبیند فرزندان ایران بیدارند و با شجاعت و آگاهی، برای بازپسگیری ایران ایستادهاند. متحد بمانید. ایستادگی کنید. اجازه ندهید تصویری عادی از میهن زخمی ما ساخته شود. تا وقتی مردم ما کشته میشوند، خواهران و برادران ما به اعدام محکوم میشوند، و مادران و پدران، همسران و کودکان ما داغدارند؛ تا وقتی این شب تیره به پایان نرسد، و ایران از چنگ این رژیم اشغالگر آزاد نشود، هیچ چیز عادی نیست و مبارزه ما ادامه خواهد داشت. بدانید که آینده از آنِ شماست؛ از آنِ شما که خاموش نماندید، برخاستید و ایستادید. ما با هم ایران را پس میگیریم و دوباره آن را میسازیم. پاینده ایران! پیروز باد انقلاب شیروخورشید ملت ایران!
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@fthisreality @tiberiusfiles Some of them have done very well materially in the west but theirs is a politics of reconstitution not liberation.
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@fightpantz @tiberiusfiles yeah, why venezuelean diaspora and iranian one is always on losing step when trying to tell me their country needs regime change (aside from the obvious destruction of that act).
they are just pissed off new rule took their power away and they have to slave for westerners.
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A subset of any oppressed population will turn on their own for a place in the ranks of the oppressors. These are the people who don’t want a fairer world, they want a better place in this unfair one.
Elica Le Bon الیکا ل بن@elicalebon
I don’t want to hear the “anti-war” crowd saying anything about Iran.
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@Forever_noir_ If Dem Party is a tool of the ruling class then it fits the current material conditions that they want a black working class to pit against class consciousness, anti-imperialism and a racialized “undocumented” underclass. The system will always find precariat compradors.
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Black liberals are delusional and deadass think black ppl are the base of the dem party. Maybe locally. But to call us the base is very loose. And if we are the base, we gotta start asking why they treat us like that then.
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@bidetmarxman @UrOrientalist When you qualify “theocratic” within a critique but not “genocidal settler-colonial” are you not normalizing the latter?
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@fightpantz @UrOrientalist Didn’t realize I needed those qualifiers with this audience but happy to clarify moving forward.
Post-WW2, imperialism has been the principal contradiction globally. But the collapse of the USSR is best explained by its internal contradictions and decisions of its leadership.
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@bidetmarxman @UrOrientalist Ok so you’re going to tell us how IRI should’ve done it differently? Have you considered examining your own chauvinisms or no? Do you think you engage in any?
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@bidetmarxman @UrOrientalist And very armchair cozy American? Like criticizing Hamas tactics but that doesn’t fly anymore whereas the Iranian dehumanization (or even just de-normalization) runs so deep it’s unconscious?
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@bidetmarxman @UrOrientalist Sorry you said “theocratic republic” but none of the same qualifiers for western governments. Regardless isn’t “plenty of questionable decisions “ obfuscating the primary contradiction?
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@bidetmarxman @UrOrientalist If “90%” of our problems are from imperialism and you use the term “regime “ unilaterally what is that? Are your facile judgements and arrogance not an emergent property of your social relations?
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@fightpantz @UrOrientalist Iran itself in no way has a madman posture. The post is directed at people who insist that it should/does.
Iran’s situation *is* bad. And 90% of why it is bad is because of US sanctions. But their govt isn’t blameless, there are plenty of questionable decisions to criticize.
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@bidetmarxman @UrOrientalist Is having nukes as a deterrent a “madman posture?” If not then how is this threat of retaliation any different? Not the first time you’ve dropped anti-Iranian western chauvinisms .“Iran’s situation is bad under theocratic republic” Pretty disappointing but unsurprising I guess.
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@UrOrientalist USrael’s overarching strategy is to isolate Iran from its neighbours and the wider world. Many in the West dismiss this, but the China-brokered KSA–Iran détente seemed to genuinely rattle them. They’d love it if Iran adopted a “madman” posture and alienated itself for them.
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