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@FeedMe_Katsudon What if there’s two people w the same name what happens
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Unrelated but- CHARLIE MORNING BREAKFAST!?
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배기는 그저 군대에서 쫓겨난거지 천국에서 쫓겨난건 아니라서 피터가 S1E6에서 배기 이름은 안물어봄
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@radiant_river If Rosie wanted to protect him why’d she make him disappear for so long when the exterminations only happen one day a year?
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@mrskabila Creo que después de todo lo que Alastor ha hecho para ayudar a Charlie pues ya se ha ganado un poquito la confianza Vaggi.
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@thesnootkisser1 @MonkeyEvilThe No one gets to decide where Angel should go, unless they own his soul. But maybe that's you idea of a good ending, that someone should own him for his own good.Maybe when Charlie is queen she should leash all sinners, undo the mistake of free will, to recreate Paradise.
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@fiterranis @MonkeyEvilThe House? Are you kidding me?
That's not Angel's home, it's his prison. The place where he is raped, physically and psychologically abused every day, and humiliated.
They shouldn't have let Angel return, especially after learning he had undergone mental hypnosis.
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@thesnootkisser1 @MonkeyEvilThe @wispiicoatl His mental state has been shit since the start. After his song with Husk his friends have protected him, but if he isolates himself they can't just declare him an imbecile, lock him up and throw therapy at him to make him "rational".
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@fiterranis @MonkeyEvilThe @wispiicoatl Again, considering Angel's deteriorated mental state, they could literally force him to be there
Again, he just suffered mind control, torture and abuse; these choices are not being made by a rational mind.
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@thesnootkisser1 @wispiicoatl How is it irrational? He almost choked Cherry to death, he spied and slandered the hotel. If they dragged him back why wouldn't he just leave, to protect them?
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@fiterranis @wispiicoatl Bullshit, fucking bullshit.
You literally just proved my point, he doesn't want to be with Val, he just thinks he's a threat to his friends. An irrational thought caused by torture and extreme abuse.
So no, dragging him back wouldn't be pointless.
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@MonkeyEvilThe I guess that more than literal self-harm I view his situation more like a case of domestic abuse. You can't save a victim by forcibly dragging them out of their house and locking them up at your place, I think :/
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@MonkeyEvilThe atp it's what I interpret he'd do based on how Angel's responded to getting helped without him wanting it + his self sacrifice bit with the train. I'm sure in the future the hotel will continue to reach out to him and that will be important.
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@Anaklusmos0726 If you filter the results to fics updated after the season 2 finale then Alastor/Vox is taking the lead by a decent margin. I think there's a decent chance it'll catch up by the time S3 drops lol
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@MonkeyEvilThe @thesnootkisser1 @wispiicoatl Val doesn't have to do anything. If they get Angel away, he'll just uber back to the tower.
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@fiterranis @thesnootkisser1 @wispiicoatl No it wouldn’t, tf is Val gonna do about it, it doesn’t matter if angel personally feels he’s a threat. the objective solution should be to get him away from his abuser.
thats like letting someone to continue to self harm and going like “oh well nothing I can do”
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@thesnootkisser1 @wispiicoatl But Angel does want to stay with Val, because he thinks he's a danger to his friends, which isn't an irrational fear btw. Until he's convinced to accept help, that his friends are willing to take that risk for him, dragging him back would be useless.
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@fiterranis @wispiicoatl Angel wants to be helped, but he's clearly not in a sound mental state.
With all due respect, that sounds quite a bit like victim blaming; you talk as if he really wanted to be with Valentino, when that's the product of torture and mind control.
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@marysunshine_7 @wispiicoatl But if Charlie burned down the tower Angel wouldn’t appreciate it, it’d be like when she tried to confront him Val and Angel told her to leave, all over again. She can’t make choices for him to speedrun his redemption.
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@fiterranis @wispiicoatl And he won’t make the call if there’s an abuser preventing him from doing that and feeding his toxic habit.
This basically implies that he must suffer and be abused so Charlie can be good and for her principles to win. His assault is necessary for a greater good basically.
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@marysunshine_7 @wispiicoatl Ohh but that’s my point. Angel is not saying any of that! No violence is even needed, he literally just has to move away from the tower like he did once already. Charlie would answer his call for help, but Angel has to make the call.
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@fiterranis @wispiicoatl While you want her to be like this.
“Please, Princess. Valentino, he… god, I feel so dirty I can’t even say it. Please. Stop him. I can’t bear it anymore.”
“I can’t. I’m sorry. What about my reputation? Do you want me to use violence?”
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@fiterranis @wispiicoatl Charlie doesn’t provide suporot.
“Oh she tried once and it failed” so try again. Different method.
Brandish your mighty trident and, burning of the great power of your crown and queendom, make Valentino pay.
The people will cheer and be helped.
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@marysunshine_7 @wispiicoatl You can’t take Angel’s agency away and dismiss the choice he made. Charlie already provides support, he just has to take it. Dragging him back atp would be kidnapping :/
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@fiterranis @wispiicoatl And then it’s up to the state, which in this case is ruled by the Morningstar dynasty Charlie is part of, to provide them to valid support systems.
Angel’s consent to Val in this case is also clearly not freely given, so it’s null.
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@marysunshine_7 @wispiicoatl But Angel willingly followed Val instead of Husk. An addict’s support system alone can’t make them quit drugs or a bad relationship, they must want to quit first.
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@fiterranis @wispiicoatl Val is also forcing him against his will. To do many things.
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