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Archaeologist ⛏️ | YouTuber 🎬 | Anti-intellectualism is the real cancel culture | Winner of 2024 Ockham Award | he/him | it's my real name | Cancer Fighter

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Flint Dibble 🍖🏺@FlintDibble·
Who is the liar Graham? @Graham__Hancock Because I've got emails that clearly document your red-handed lies right here. They emailed you and you chickened out. Graham Hancock lacks integrity and testicular fortitude Hey @joerogan your buddy is a liar and a coward
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Homer Pavlos
Homer Pavlos@HomerPavlos·
Emily Wilson is a kind of a feminist that is truly a bad person that wants to hurt you. Not directly, but in depth, through her profession as a classicist. She is attacking my culture and the Greeks because she hates virtues. She is blatantly lying because most of you don't know to read Greek. But I am Greek and I can read both modern and ancient Greek. So let me tell you why she is purposely lying. The references with insulting epithets toward the servant/slave women who betrayed Odysseus’s house and slept with the suitors are numerous. The most common ones, however, are "bitches" and "shameless" that were serious insults. Most foreigners translated the word "bitch" as "slut" which is correct to say that this is wrong because it's not what the text writes but in a sense of "non-literal translation" it's not out of context because those women who slept with the suitors and betrayed Penelope were "shameless bitches". Especially the word "shameless" is a strong insult in Greek. It implies sexual shamelessness lack of decency, and moral boldness and this is why foreign translators are using the word "sluts" in English. But Homer doesn't use the Greek word directly to call them "whores". The following translations I will use are made directly from the ancient Greek text into modern Greek. We Greeks do not read foreign translations. What we call an adaptation (απόδοση) from ancient to modern Greek is not considered a "translation" for us, since it is the same language. In other words an adaptation of a Greek text bridges the gap between ancient or dialectic Greek and the modern target audience. 1. Odysseus to a servant woman (Book 18, line 340): "Bitch, if I go and immediately repeat your wretched words to Telemachus, he will tear you to pieces, you’ll be smashed into bits." [ἦ τάχα Τηλεμάχῳ ἐρέω, κύον (=Bitch), οἷ᾽ ἀγορεύεις, κεῖσ᾽ ἐλθών, ἵνα σ᾽ αὖθι διὰ μελεϊστὶ τάμῃσιν] 2. Penelope to Melantho (the servant who slept with Eurymachus and betrayed them), when Melantho spoke rudely to Odysseus (who was still disguised) (Book 19, line 91): "Nevertheless, you bold, shameless bitch, you do not escape my notice at all, doing a great deed which you will wipe off on your own head." [πάντως, θαρσαλέη, κύον ἀδεές (=fearless bitch), οὔ τί με λήθεις ἔρδουσα μέγα ἔργον, ὃ σῇ κεφαλῇ ἀναμάξεις] 3. "Perhaps in foreign lands too, some servant women insult him, every time he enters a famous lord’s house, just like these bitches here who all together insult you, stranger. I imagine that to avoid their reproach, their shamelessness…" (Book 19, around line 370) 4. "Servant women shamelessly dragging themselves here and there." (Book 20, line 318) 5. "Twelve of them appeared completely shameless, who had no regard for me and showed no respect to Penelope." (Book 22, line 422) Emily Wilson cannot tolerate any criticism of the women who betrayed the man Odysseus and slept like shameless bitches with the enemy, betraying Penelope. In her worldview, men are always the bad guys, and only women are the heroines. She herself calls the academic translators misogynists. It is inconceivable that there are today "eunuch" academics who defend this malicious and worthless woman. This woman is in Classical Studies in order to destroy them, so that you, who will read her books, will form a false image of the epics that built Western civilization. How Odysseus is not a hero, Achilles is not a hero, men are not great and brave but evil, and how the patriarchy must be fought so that women can win. They are trying to convince you that there is no heroism in Homer. Yet the epics were written precisely for this reason: so that you understand what it means to be a hero, what sacrifices are required, what difficulties you will face, and how you will achieve eternal fame. How you will conquer your passions, how anger destroys you, and how moral virtues lead you toward godlike status. She hates all of this. She wants you spiritually dead. She hates you. Therefore, it is completely justified for you to hate them too.
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Flint Dibble 🍖🏺
Flint Dibble 🍖🏺@FlintDibble·
@GSchon8 the info about it losing money was an anonymous leak. no hard data provided. no source behind it. it's not credible info, as it could easily be face-saving spin notice other night time tv is still going on
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Dig Egyptology? 𓂋𓇋𓍿𓄿𓂋𓂧
You should look up how much money the network was losing from his show. I will defend free speech, but it's understandable that people get fired when they cause that kind of financial loss. Night time television is done. It has nothing to do with no talent, People spend more time on apps.
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Flint Dibble 🍖🏺@FlintDibble·
@romanhelmetguy you do realize it's impossible to translate every single word in Homeric epic in a literal manner? Translators make judgment calls all the time. Focusing on one word is meaningless. It betrays your ignorance and inability to read ancient Greek You're acting petty for attention
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Roman Helmet Guy
Roman Helmet Guy@romanhelmetguy·
Roman Helmet Guy@romanhelmetguy

Emily Wilson completely changed the meaning of a key word in the Odyssey to make it seem like Helen of Troy didn't blame herself for starting the Trojan War, when in fact the text makes it clear that she did. In 4.145-146, Helen calls herself κυνώπιδος (dog-faced). This is an insult meaning "shameless." It is commonly used to refer to unfaithful lovers. For example, it is used elsewhere in the Odyssey (8.319) to refer to Aphrodite after she cheats on Hephaestus with Ares. Fagles translates 4.145-146 to: "all you Achaeans fought at Troy, launching your headlong battles just for my sake, shameless whore that I was.” Lattimore translates 4.145-146 to: "for the sake of shameless me, the Achaians went beneath Troy, their hearts intent upon reckless warfare." Wilson completely changes the meaning of κυνώπιδος to "hounded" (she is trying to be cute by translating 'dog-faced' to a word that still relates to dogs, even though its actual meaning is completely unrelated). She then applies this word to the Achaeans, saying that they were hounded, not Helen. Her translation is in the image below. This is obviously an ideological change that she made because she personally believes Helen shouldn't be blamed for the Trojan War. She deliberated distorted the meaning of one of the foundational texts of Western literature to conform with her modern beliefs.

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Roman Helmet Guy
Roman Helmet Guy@romanhelmetguy·
I’ve successfully shifted the discourse about Emily Wilson’s translation on here by academics from “It’s great” to “Ok so she takes a ton of liberties and makes many questionable choices and I don’t personally like it, but translation is hard, and I really hate RHG.” Progress.
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Flint Dibble 🍖🏺
Flint Dibble 🍖🏺@FlintDibble·
@ISASaxonists nah, my YouTube isn't the same kind of wasteland as this platform! I mean we can trash them or just stick to history, and hopefully it'll help it find some audience
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Paul Krause
Paul Krause@paul_jkrause·
Euripides is fun. Aristophanes is funny. Aeschylus is contemplative. Sophocles is the best.
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Flint Dibble 🍖🏺
Flint Dibble 🍖🏺@FlintDibble·
@GregDaly way too rational and understanding of a response for this hellhole of a website that said, i fully endorse it
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Greg Daly
Greg Daly@GregDaly·
Good closer to a fine thread. People who are really worried about Classics, History, Greece, “the West”, or whatever should stop whinging about a film they’ve not seen and a translation that irks them - read another, so - and focus instead on trying to save our universities.
"Online Rent-a-Sage" Bret Devereaux@BretDevereaux

Finally, I must note: the very departments that train these skills are now crumbling as a result of the broad defunding of the humanities in the USA and elsewhere. If we want to still be able to plumb the depths of Greek and Latin, we must support those programs! /end

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Georgy Kantor
Georgy Kantor@GeorgyKantor·
The best Russian expert (and genuinely important scholar) on Neo-Platonic and Aristotelian philosophy, Svetlana Mesiats, has been put under house arrest in the investigation of 'fraudulent translations of Aristotle'. iphras.ru/messiats.htm
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Flint Dibble 🍖🏺
Flint Dibble 🍖🏺@FlintDibble·
@WKCosmo Rather than sticking up for higher education, science, and rigorous scholarship, you prefer to tear it down and denigrate those who work hard at research and teaching You're an anti intellectual masquerading as a scientist
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Flint Dibble 🍖🏺
Flint Dibble 🍖🏺@FlintDibble·
@beffjezos First they came for illegal immigrants, and you didn't speak up because you lacked empathy Then they came for immigrants of color, and you didn't speak up because you were racist Then they came for you. Which sucks man. Maybe be a better person
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Beff (e/acc)
Beff (e/acc)@beffjezos·
Feeling robbed of my path to citizenship right now after grinding a PhD and contributing to foundational AI + computing technologies for the United States for the past ~ 10 years. Feels like robbing top and technologists like me of the opportunity to achieve the American Dream.
Theo - t3.gg@theo

This sucks. America should welcome greatness. Builders, innovators, and creators should have a fast path to citizenship. I can’t fathom why we would make life harder for founders starting billion dollar companies that want to anchor themselves in the US.

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Flint Dibble 🍖🏺
Flint Dibble 🍖🏺@FlintDibble·
@WKCosmo You're a terribly incollegial colleague. How about all those retracted STEM papers the last few years? Do they somehow invalidate your work? It's all guilt by association from cherry picked samples in your culture wars mudslinging BS Pathetic, man
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JBTC
JBTC@JBTC1971·
@FlintDibble Unless you enjoy basic maths of course.
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