frottage

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frottage

frottage

@frottagebook

Nairobi, Kenya Katılım Ekim 2018
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frottage@frottagebook·
@HolcJanine Non-heteroreproduction *might* threaten some of the patriarchal stuff that heteromarriage and heteroreproduction secure and affirm. I'm simply not sure. Others have thought better about this.
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frottage@frottagebook·
@HolcJanine That's interesting. Look forward to learning more from you about this. My tentative guess, not knowing the archive, is that the procreative and genealogical are deeply intertwined: lineage emerges as heteroreproductive.
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frottage@frottagebook·
That said, I'd be interested to know how you think about procreative frameworks, and what you think they might enable based on the particular archive you're examining. (Theory never precedes the archive, a teacher taught me, so my questions arise from what I engage.)
Janine Holc@HolcJanine

@frottagebook I have a related question. Do you see any possible gaps between genealogical frameworks and readings, and procreative ones? Might procreative imperatives have different energies than genealogical imperatives?

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frottage@frottagebook·
And I think the image I keep returning to is that certain approaches and aims—genealogical ones—crowd out other possibilities, and I'm trying to nudge sharply enough that we can try to see other ways to think and live.
Janine Holc@HolcJanine

@frottagebook I have a related question. Do you see any possible gaps between genealogical frameworks and readings, and procreative ones? Might procreative imperatives have different energies than genealogical imperatives?

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frottage@frottagebook·
I was thinking about this. And I think I have a very narrow answer. For the specific body of work I was looking at—Black Diaspora—I'm not sure there's a difference between genealogical and procreative approaches, if I understand what procreative means.
Janine Holc@HolcJanine

@frottagebook I have a related question. Do you see any possible gaps between genealogical frameworks and readings, and procreative ones? Might procreative imperatives have different energies than genealogical imperatives?

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frottage@frottagebook·
@HolcJanine Thanks for the question. I'll think toward it. Frame some kind of answer on Wednesday.
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Janine Holc@HolcJanine·
@frottagebook I have a related question. Do you see any possible gaps between genealogical frameworks and readings, and procreative ones? Might procreative imperatives have different energies than genealogical imperatives?
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frottage@frottagebook·
Great question! I'll think with it and try to say something useful on Wednesday.
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frottage@frottagebook·
I look forward to learning from other people working at that particular suture and in other sutures—N8v—how this thinking is possible and generative. I'm excited to learn!
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frottage@frottagebook·
So, kinship. My most honest answer is that I don't know *how* to think about kinship at the suture of Africa and Afro-diaspora so that something called queer is not disappeared. I don't know how to think about kinship at that suture in a way that does not disappear difference.
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frottage@frottagebook·
So, yes, I'm claiming that certain aspects of minoritization depend on the thinking—the questioning—that happens with the fucking body, questions that may not arise from other acts and positions and relations and encounters.
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frottage@frottagebook·
And I've never understood the claim that in some moment of ecstasy, thought is banished. Certainly, this is not a luxury afforded to many minoritized people. And if the question is not "will I get sick?" Sometimes it's, "will I be safe during and after this encounter?"
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frottage@frottagebook·
Hortense Spillers opens an article—too lazy to check which one—by recounting a friend asking if a particular conceptual thing was what she thought about when making love. "Now we think as we fuck."
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frottage@frottagebook·
To think with this question. A friend reminded me of Essex Hemphill's "now we think as we fuck," and for Hemphill, that thinking was about the threat of HIV—threat because this is before antiretrovirals. I want to stay with the think.
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frottage@frottagebook·
I should apologize to this account for neglecting it.
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frottage@frottagebook·
@ndinda_ So exciting to be hang out with! (Read conclusion first
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