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@thee_neon @emerrin_lol @drewlevin And what are the new players actually missing
Chovy is literally the only guy who can use the mechanic to the fullest and we prob won’t go against Chovy EVER in our lifeline
How is it damaging new players if like 99.9% players won’t ever reach apex tier?
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@gerald19981125 @emerrin_lol @drewlevin youtube.com/watch?v=zH6kMg… Watch the first 19minutes. The thought process is explain throughly.
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Does Riot seriously think the current tutorial is not a real issue? It literally tells you nothing about how the game operates, even if this change goes through y'all should still make more tutorials
Drew Levin@drewlevin
@sauronsquidmain players tell us to make tutorials about wave management because the rules about how the little guys hit each other are esoteric enough and influential enough on outcomes to warrant a tutorial part of game development is listening to feedback and hearing what the real issue is
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@thee_neon @emerrin_lol @drewlevin Then should Riot also remove uncancellable autos?
Aatrox P, Garen Q, Renek W , Jhin 4th shot, Reksai W, are all uncancel-able autos that could usually only be utilized by apex tier players
Faelights is already one of the ways to bypass learning vision control and ward coverage
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@thee_neon @emerrin_lol @drewlevin “ Intuitive” “ can be learned easily”
Camille can Q thru Jax counter strike if she cast it at the end of Jax E since it’s an unstoppable wind-up
No where it was written and I believe 99% of the playerbase don’t know about it
However it was commonly used in proplay(mythic patch)
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@thee_neon @emerrin_lol @drewlevin And how is Siege still alive then?
The game is also over 10 years and players are getting old
Just answer the question, if someday in the future Riot added ultimate/summs tracker or automatic jungler ganking alert, would u think this is a good change?
And yes 99% of players can’t
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@gerald19981125 @emerrin_lol @drewlevin You see you don't have a choice in this, Riot has to care because at the end of the day if League isn't able to retain new players and attract new players League actually does die. The playerbase gets older and as it gets older more and more people leave the game League needs to
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@thee_neon @emerrin_lol @drewlevin I can reproduce autoing the middle backline caster as Jayce vs Irelia EVERY GAME so my frontlines don’t die at the same time
Or Viktor mid against Qiyana Sylas, or Kayle into Melee matchups
Minion priority rule is also written in the lol wiki. Just read it?????????
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@gerald19981125 @emerrin_lol @drewlevin Yes and if you watch Phroxon patch rundown(is really good i covers this) something like this isn't depth it's an interaction that wasn't intended and it isn't intuitive. Tthats the whole thing, complexity and depth are things that a player can simply identify and reproduce
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@thee_neon @emerrin_lol @drewlevin I have no problems if a game tutorial is long
Tiktokers having an attention span of 5 seconds is none of my, and shouldn’t be Riot’s concern. Wildrift exist and the current gen don’t even know how computer fkin works anyway
Siege did it, and players bought it
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@gerald19981125 @emerrin_lol @drewlevin League is fighting against a million other live service games for peoples time. People want to jump in and see what the game is all about, things that they should learn should be intuitive and is acquired over time. Your idea is good but expecing someone new todo that is fantasy
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@thee_neon @emerrin_lol @drewlevin So you take of saving MOBA
Is to make MOBA not a MOBA anymore?
Then should Riot also take away cooldown tracking like fighting games ? (U know they have super or not)
There is ARAM Mayhem, an extremely fun mode for casuals. MOBA is suppose to be have some depths no?
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@gerald19981125 @emerrin_lol @drewlevin If you really think, any new player is gonna subject themselves to this then lol. Like you can easily download Valorant, complete the tutorial>start a game. Easy 123. Done. The very nature of Mobas are the reason why it's a dying genre.
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@thee_neon @emerrin_lol @drewlevin Yes?
Just make it a series of replayable missions and levels , and each level teaching a new mechanic?
Let say “last hit” , oh last hit 18 minions out of 4 waves, and reward new players with skins shards or hexchest and free champs
Then warding, ganking, rotating, TP, trading
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@emerrin_lol @drewlevin Imagine if you’re a new player for a second. On top of understanding match ups, items, how to lane, team fight, vision, learning your champion, now you want add wave management in there.
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am i the only one who thinks redemption is insane? it costs 2300g and has 5500 (+ 275 range from the heal radius itself) which covers the entire jgl. decent aoe heal, deals juicy 10% max hp true dmg AND it can be used while dead. it won me so many games, i simply love this item
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@Manenkos @CoachlessGG bring back the old passive and it'll be fine again
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@FullAD_Vayne @Jenax_LoL Now ezreal wouldn’t need to use hourglass!
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Funny how in quotes etc people think master players are using this.
In my lec time THIS SPECIFIC mechanic has not been discovered (2020-2025latest) and just recently it has become a "new" thing. In comp ERL1 besides me I have seen max 2 people TRYING to use it intentionally
Drew Levin@drewlevin
players: Riot should really care about making the game more approachable and comprehensible to people trying to learn the game those same players: Riot is killing their game yet again by removing an esoteric minion targeting rule that 10,000 people worldwide understand
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@BraayAX3 @Elolesio_ With minion buffs ofc it can’t be done
Yes LS talked about the perfect scenario in quite a lot of times but we can still agree on that LS was indeed ahead of its time and freezing mid-game was underused.
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@Elolesio_ LS literally talked about this for years and pro teams just refused to do it. Also freezing all lanes is not possible in any sort of real game
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"It removed a lot of strategic depth" ?????
Without this, in proplay, the winning team would just freeze all three lanes, and only ever unfreeze for objectives. Freezing is such a broken and safe way to expand lead, that it had to be arteficially deleted from midgame with this.
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This is one of the hidden mechanics that I hated the most after it got introduced. Might even be the number 1 It's not explained anywhere, and most people have no idea minions power up in this way It removed a lot of strategic depth. Made league into a push push push game
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@Veigar_v2 “Due to your teammates reporting you for your 2-pixel teleport with a mix of your montage music choice from 1984 , we manually reviewed it and no you will not be unbanned”
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