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Geoff Graham

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Tweets are reminders to myself. Replies are me trolling friends. @bigridgemtnclub @yeomanpodcast @periodicalink @ioncompany

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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
I think a lot of folks rightly observe and articulate the problems of modernity—atomized communities, deteriorating metabolic health, ever-more industrial consolidation, etc—and assume they result from the natural progression of a humanity imperfectly directed by a central planning authority. In their view, fixing them requires a better authority rather than no authority at all. Examples: Wendell Berry advocates for price controls in agriculture and different types of price supports, many New Urbanists seek new/different land use prescriptions and federal infrastructure subsidies, etc. My sense is they advocate for these things with a kind of resignation: "It's just too that bad people, if left to their own devices, can't freely collaborate toward a better world. It's just too bad that people must have some sort of authority giving them direction." But the more I pick at any failure of modernity, the more it seems to me that it is precisely the authorities' inevitable misdirection that caused the problem. In the case of land use and the changing patterns of human settlement (an area about which I know more than a little) it seems so inescapably obvious nowadays that even those who are politically inclined toward central planning reluctantly acknowledge it. And the more I learn about agriculture, the more I see the same pattern repeating itself there. So, I don't quite get the pessimism. We don't need to try to solve the unsolvable problem of creating a better authority. If someone hangs on to that as the necessary path, I can see why they'd be pessimistic; history shows us that can't be done! But we can begin cutting Gordian knots. Ending intervention. Ending interference. Ending micromanagement. Ending central planning. Etc etc. When enough people appreciate that the central planners caused the problems, we will end the central planning. And more people appreciate that now than a decade ago. And more appreciated that a decade ago than the decade prior. So while I hear weariness and pessimism in the voices of some wise and battle-scarred critics of modernity, I'm optimistic: The path forward seems so obvious to me, and every year that passes, it seems to become increasingly obvious to more and more people. Before one can walk the way, one needs to know the way.
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An excellent discussion with @GGunthorp on @DoomerOptimism about how our food system came to be what it is. So many parallels with our built environment. Sprawl didn’t “just happen”. Neither did industrial agriculture.

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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
I appreciate you acknowledging that auto-dependent suburbs depend on federal subsidies. That cities are presently federally subsidized does not mean they depend upon federal subsidy for existence. Obviously, American cities existed for hundreds of years prior to the subsidies, so clearly they don't depend upon them. Federal intervention (including but not limited to infrastructure subsidies) in land use, transportation, and housing has harmed cities and helped to create suburbs.
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JaMikeyMike
JaMikeyMike@JaMikeyMike·
@ggraham @Noahpinion Everyone relies on subsidies. Suburbs just less so.i have to build The infra in the burbs not in the cities. Utilities also only scale till about 4000 people per sm. There's a reason suburbs don't try to annex CC for their sweet tax dollars.
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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
Do you really believe people in suburbs do not rely on federally subsidized infrastructure? Cities existed thousands of years before the federal government began subsidizing auto infrastructure. Auto-dependent suburbs came into existence about a century ago, immediately after those subsidies began.
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JaMikeyMike
JaMikeyMike@JaMikeyMike·
@ggraham @Noahpinion Infra in the suburbs is paid and built by the developers of the land. This isn't true for city centers. It's also only about 8% of spending.
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JaMikeyMike
JaMikeyMike@JaMikeyMike·
@PhiloOfNYC @ggraham @Noahpinion Strong towns honestly just makes shit up. They look at it as a per square foot calculation instead of a per person -then completely ignore that most infra negatively scales after about 4000 people per square mile
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Greg Gunthorp
Greg Gunthorp@GGunthorp·
We are long a couple pallets of individual packed St Louis ribs. One of our online brands dropped us with no notice. I pitched them to existing food service customer. If I’ll sell them below commodity price they’ll help me out. I think I’ll give them to local school.
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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
Lots of reasons to be optimistic, and I appreciate this gentle (even if unintended) reminder that they deserve more attention.
Wade@WadingSmith

@ggraham Fireside Sawmill in Raleigh Durham is a hopeful example, having made some incredible headway with the NC state legislature on cutting through the obstacles to utilizing local sourced and milled lumber to meet residential building codes.

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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
Extrapolate this out to a house built almost entirely by a single crew, with most of the materials coming from the immediate area, in the imaginary world where one can avoid inspections and energy efficiency code requirements. At every turn thru the global supply chain, the material cost increases by 1.5x to 2x. Every crew rotation requires a $500 to $1000 mobilization and demobilization. Every stop for inspection adds $1000+ for interruption and inactivity. Orchestrating the complexity requires a professional air traffic controller, who charges 20%.
Wade@WadingSmith

This 10'x14' chicken coop with 8 nesting boxes was constructed in two days with rough sawn white pine and ash lumber right off the sawmill. The lumber was all true dimensional and came in at a cost .38 per board foot, paid in cash with no permits or building codes to be satisfied. There are pockets of parallel economies still operating in communities across America.

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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
Easiest way for me to piss off people on this site is to make the same arguments that Madison and Jefferson persuasively made about why the federal government shouldn't be in the internal improvements business. Their view prevailed until a bad SCOTUS decision in 1907.
Geoff Graham@ggraham

@Noahpinion You get more of what you subsidize (with federal debt), and I am guessing no country subsidizes the infrastructure required to make suburbs livable (and to drive to/fro/within them) more than the United States.

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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
I am talking about federal intervention, not state or local. There is a difference between prudently financed local infrastructure investments and public debt financed cronyist federal road spending. Or at least there should be; the feds are throwing money and influence around at every level.
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HowRYouBud
HowRYouBud@HowRYouBud·
@ggraham @ClayDesert @Noahpinion It’s a fundamental government function. We can talk about whether feds, state or localities should do it, but it’s government. If people need to move where there aren’t roads (a need that drives suburbanization) govt-funded roads are a rational component, not a subsidy.
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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
@Tom__Dakota @fireball635101 @Noahpinion Federal subsidies of cities & infrastructure lead to bad outcomes. TJ and Madison understood this & their view was cemented in the Constitution. This remained the widely shared view prior to the Progressive Era & was not legally toppled until 1907 via a crazy SCOTUS decision.
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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
I am glad we agree that auto-dependency is subsidized. You made your career by minimizing the direct and indirect subsidizes and stanning for the status quo. There was a time when your voice had some influence and contributed to the incalculable difficulty developers faced when securing the rezonings required to build walkable places. I am glad that time is over.
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Randal O'Toole
Randal O'Toole@antiplanner·
@ggraham @GreenPlusAnE Guess all you want. If you actually look at the data, you will find that subsidies to driving are less than 2¢/pass-mile and most come from local governments, not the feds. Subsidies to transit are >$2/pm.
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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
Randall O’Toole enters the chat! First time I encountered Randall, he was speaking to the SC homebuilders association in ~1997, arguing that the industry should oppose making it legal for developers like us to build mixed use. Strawman all you want, you are trying to assign to me an argument I have never made.
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Randal O'Toole
Randal O'Toole@antiplanner·
@ggraham @Noahpinion Guess all you want, but if you would carefully look at the data, it turns out the central cities receive far more subsidies per capita than the suburbs. Higher taxes too.
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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
@Probablyno24740 @Noahpinion You've abandoned the claim that your lifestyle is not subsidized by the federal government and you're now arguing that it's good that it is subsidized. Also, direct and indirect federal subsidies of roads began long before Ike. x.com/ggraham/status…
Geoff Graham@ggraham

Here's an incomplete list of federal intervention that has promoted, mandated, and subsidized the destruction of our cities’ and towns’ historic urban fabric, the destruction of our rural landscape, auto-dependency, and the uglification of America. - Federal Aid Road Act (1916) (Indirect, Major) - Federal Aid Highway Act (1921) (Indirect, Major) - Home Owners' Loan Act (1933) (Indirect, Major) - National Housing Act (1934) (Indirect, Major) - Hayden-Cartwright Act (1934) (Indirect, Major) - Federal Housing Administration (FHA) Underwriting Manual (1934) (Indirect, Major) - Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD) (1935) (Indirect, Major) - Federal Aid Highway Act (1938) (Indirect, Major) - Servicemen's Readjustment Act (1944; also known as the GI Bill) (Indirect, Major) - Federal-Aid Highway Act (1944) (Indirect, Major) - Veterans Administration (VA) Loan Guaranty Program Standards (1944) (Indirect, Major) - Housing Act of 1949 (Direct, Major) - Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Urban Renewal Program Guidelines (1949) (Direct, Major) - Internal Revenue Code of 1954 (Indirect, Major) - Housing Act of 1954 (Direct, Major) - Federal Highway Administration (FHWA) Adoption of AASHTO's A Policy on Geometric Design of Highways and Streets (Green Book) (1954) (Indirect, Major) - Federal-Aid Highway Act (1956; also known as the National Interstate and Defense Highways Act) (Direct, Major) - Federal-Aid Highway Act (1958) (Indirect, Major) - Federal-Aid Highway Act (1959) (Indirect, Major) - Housing and Urban Development Act (1968) (Indirect, Major) - Federal-Aid Highway Act (1968) (Indirect, Major) - Clean Air Act (1970) (Indirect, Minor) - Uniform Relocation Assistance and Real Property Acquisition Policies Act (1970) (Direct, Minor) - Housing and Community Development Act (1974) (Indirect, Minor) - Energy Tax Act (1978) (Indirect, Minor) - Chrysler Corporation Loan Guarantee Act (1979) (Indirect, Major) - Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency Act (1991) (Indirect, Major) - Taxpayer Relief Act (1997) (Indirect, Minor) - Transportation Equity Act for the 21st Century (1998) (Indirect, Major) - Energy Policy Act (2005) (Indirect, Minor) - Safe, Accountable, Flexible, Efficient Transportation Equity Act: A Legacy for Users (2005) (Indirect, Major) - Energy Independence and Security Act (2007) (Indirect, Minor) - Emergency Economic Stabilization Act (2008) (Indirect, Major) - American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (2009) (vehicle sales tax deduction provision) (Indirect, Minor) - Consumer Assistance to Recycle and Save Act (2009; also known as Cash for Clunkers) (Indirect, Major) - Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act (2012) (Indirect, Major) - Fixing America's Surface Transportation Act (2015) (Indirect, Major) - Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act (2021; also known as the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law) (Indirect, Major) - Inflation Reduction Act (2022) (vehicle tax credits and manufacturing provisions) (Indirect, Minor) - One Big Beautiful Bill Act (2025) (Indirect, Major) One might reasonably include the Federal Reserve Act (1913), as it provides the means to federally finance the drastic remaking of American settlement patterns.

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Probablynotarobot
Probablynotarobot@Probablyno24740·
We’ve only spent ~750 billion USD on the interstate highway system since Dwight Eisenhower proposed it in the first place. I am well aware of how important they are, but that’s why I know that we’ve gained way more in tax revenue from economic activity directly dependent on the existence of those interstates than we’ve spent on them.
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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
If the federal government pays for half the cost of your electricity or healthcare or food, what would you call that? The founders decided that the federal government should not be in the business of road building (aka "internal improvements"), and all such things should be left to the states. With few relatively minor edge case exceptions (that were constitutionally sus), that's how America operated until 1907 (Wilson v Shaw). Since then, road building and paying for the cost of maintain the roads have become a "basic government function" in the same way that Social Security is a "basic government function". Clearly not what the founders intended, but I get that big government-types like that it now does it.
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HowRYouBud
HowRYouBud@HowRYouBud·
@ggraham @ClayDesert @Noahpinion Road building is a basic government function. Calling it a subsidy is a fundamentally dishonest take. (In response to a post highlighting the long running, fundamentally dishonest critique of suburbs.)
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Scriber Areal
Scriber Areal@scriberareal·
@ggraham @ClayDesert @Noahpinion Fair enough. But of all the things the government spends money on that I wish it didn't, nationally useful infrastructure is not one of them.
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Patri Friedman 🌆
Patri Friedman 🌆@patrissimo·
@bryan_johnson I’d love to see a carnivore period experiment from you. Get some data on how your body responds to the world’s most effective elimination diet. It cured my son’s ulcerative colitis in a couple of weeks.
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Bryan Johnson
Bryan Johnson@bryan_johnson·
The world wants me to die. My incurable disease diagnosis became global news. It was omnipresent on social media and 1,900 articles were written in a matter of days. Many were saddened. However, joy dominated the commentary. People pointed to schadenfreude, the pleasure of another's failure. Yes, there’s that. There is a special place in people’s hearts that loves to see others fail, especially when that person’s presence threatens their own psychological stability in some way or helps them feel better about themselves. But, if you look over the social media commentary about me, you’ll see that pattern: “he deserved it.” I deserved it because I challenged death. The crowd was running a deeply rooted psychological script that represents the oldest, most deeply embedded stories of human culture. This was the first story ever written down, 4,000 years ago. Gilgamesh sought eternal life after losing someone he loved, only to have the plant of youth stolen by a serpent as he bathed. Leaving him to accept his mortality. Asclepius became so skilled at rejuvenation that he raised the dead. As punishment, Zeus struck him down with a thunderbolt to enforce life and death authority. This is the story of Jesus. Pontius Pilate offered a choice between a thief and the immortalist, and the crowd demanded the execution. People need this story conclusion to keep themselves sane. The challenger must lose and the loss must appear deserved. It’s a shield of self preservation. For if death is inevitable, their existence and that of their loved ones is justified and unavoidable. If death is not inevitable, nothing about their reality is safe. I occupy the same philosophical and archetypal position as Gilgamesh, Asclepius and Jesus. This statement will draw outrage and accusations of blasphemy, hubris and narcissism. Nevertheless, it’s the pattern that has repeated itself for thousands of years. Death has been the omnipresent concern of the human race. It encapsulates our greatest fears, joy and curiosities. The discourse around it changes over time; however, the fundamentals remain unchanged. What’s different about this moment, that is unlike any other moment, is that physical death may no longer be inevitable. What if I didn’t deserve it? And what if I am your ally, and not a threat?
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Geoff Graham
Geoff Graham@ggraham·
@aestheticist_ @Noahpinion You are off by three zeros, but regardless, I am not defending federal subsidies of mass transit. I am anti-federal subsidy. Also, the interstate highway system is among the most expensive endeavors in the history of humanity.
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Joseph
Joseph@aestheticist_·
@ggraham @Noahpinion this is pure cope. putting aside that federal spending on transportation is minuscule. the fed spends $20 million on mass transit and $50-60 million on roads. but Americans take 10x as many car trips as transit trips per year. the gov subsidies are per capita 3x for mass transit
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