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average trans woman in lesbian spaces as well if im being honest
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average trans man in lesbian spaces: uhm actually i have community here since before i transition and even though im just seen as a sexual commodity that’s actually ok. read stone butch blues, hun! average trans woman in gay male spaces:
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@rawrthiaba @elsluver4 i asked this person if they thought race was real (bc they kept doing the social construct = not real bullshit) and they did this fuckass hopscotch with me for like 4 replies 😭 like if ur a weirdo at least stand on it
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@elsluver4 @gutsbeth why’re you avoiding the question? you could’ve just said no. this conversation would’ve been over, i don’t argue w trans exclusionists
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@elsluver4 i genuinely hope u get help and better education but ive got better things to do than argue with someone who cant understand the simple concept of "denying the oppressive systems validity is an aid to the oppressor and further harm to the oppressed."
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trans ally who believes in bio essentialism and socialisation rhetoric.
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@gutsbeth @luisinhacf a mix of biology + socialisation
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@elsluver4 @trashchanorcan @rawrthiaba bi women havent been going crazy abt normal lesbians being les4les its abt the ones calling us cum dumps and whores to justify them being les4les
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@gutsbeth @trashchanorcan @rawrthiaba and don’t lie as if bi women online haven’t been going insane about lesbians being les4les lol. saying that the reason they don’t date women is because of lesbians. bi women rarely see other bi women as their dating pool.
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i do feel genuinely insane why do you guys hate us this much for just existing and claiming the history we have always been a part of
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the amount of “bi femme” accs i’ve seen LMAOOOOO
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@elsluver4 @trashchanorcan @rawrthiaba theres no point arguing with u like ur genuinely so loud proud and uneducated.
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@gutsbeth @trashchanorcan @rawrthiaba no lesbian calls anyone attracted to men a lesbian. statistics very clearly show that over 80% of bi men and women in a relationship are in a rls with someone of the opposite sex.
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@elsluver4 do u have an issue with comprehension like read that last reply again it cant be this bad for u
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@elsluver4 @trashchanorcan @rawrthiaba no one said we're oppressed for "dating men" there are many other systematic failures towards bisexuals.
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@trashchanorcan @gutsbeth @rawrthiaba you’ll never be oppressed for dating men lol. when gay marriage was illegal, were bi people banned from marrying the opposite sex? the only systemic oppression you face is due to your same sex attraction.
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@elsluver4 @trashchanorcan @rawrthiaba they do. yall just call them lesbians. for someone so obsessed with statistics and patterns one would think u would pay closer attention.
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@gutsbeth @trashchanorcan @rawrthiaba why don’t bi women date other bi women? always such an interesting topic to me
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@elsluver4 obviously if anyone could they would go back and make sure the hierarchies were never born anyway but to act like theyre meaningless now is only harming the victim of said oppression and invalidating their historical struggle for rights, their progress, and current struggles.
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@elsluver4 both race and gender were born FROM made up oppressive heirarchies yet acting like theyre meaningless isnt a progressive belief it just denies that oppression any recognition and the oppressed any future divorcing themselves from that oppression.
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@elsluver4 choice feminist because i... actively believe in the seperation of womenhood from the patriarchy.. do u know what choice feminism is. choice feminism.. defends a woman's individual autonomy even if it services the patriarchy.. the very thing im against.
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@elsluver4 @trashchanorcan @rawrthiaba yall are real funny. ur surprised someone is homeless when u kicked them out of their family home 😭
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@trashchanorcan @gutsbeth @rawrthiaba hmmm let’s look at statistics and see how many bi women are actually living queer lives lmao
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@elsluver4 they wouldnt be understood to be different if society didnt make the distinction between them. there is more genome difference in the people of one race than there is between multiple ones. different eye colours also exist. but there is no power heirarchy that is built on that.
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@elsluver4 @rawrthiaba @trashchanorcan idgaf what lesbian ur thinking of. bi sapphics BUILT the lesbian community pre seperatism as much as yall did. u just do not get to choose if they get to partake in what they helped historically create or not
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@gutsbeth @rawrthiaba @trashchanorcan it was very much about sole attraction to sapphics which is one of the main reasons why lesbian separatism happened lol. lesbians as a whole never accepted bi women into butch/femme identities
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@elsluver4 my ideal version of womenhood and every correct version of womenhood doesnt associate it with men. u know u can choose to not do that right? that u can choose to not be stuck in ur your oppressors definition of you. that straight women deserve that right.
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@elsluver4 @rawrthiaba @trashchanorcan just because the bisexual label was born for bi sapphics do identify as, doesnt mean that the label thats ALWAYS BEEN THEIRS 😭 isnt theirs anymore.
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@elsluver4 @rawrthiaba @trashchanorcan "language evolves and changes" EXACTLY 😭 lesbian meant something different back then and bi sapphics were a part of it. they were a part of butchfemme. butchfemme included bi sapphics because it wasnt abt SOLE attraction to other sapphics it was abt attraction to sapphics
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@elsluver4 @rawrthiaba @trashchanorcan bi butchfemmes have historically existed and been accepted in the sapphic community. just because u want something to be true doesnt mean it is.
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