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Halley
@halleyji
Interested in topics related to Modernity-Tradition-Continuity ; Dharma/Religion-Ecology-Economics; Technology-society; Hindu. Male.
Katılım Mayıs 2009
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@hydertext I can see that. But this model of selling Hindu tolerance by saying I worship Jesus I go to Church isn't some winning move. That's all I want to say.
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There is no compulsion, but it’s the same logic that prompts Hindus to pay abeyance when they visit a new place and encounter a temple of a different unknown Sampradāya. They go there to worship because they believe/sense that there is power (Mahimā) in that temple. The same logic is extended to religions that originated outside India, because obviously the presence of Divine (īśāvāsyam) doesn’t stop at the borders of India.
Look at this way: is it Adharma to worship the Īśwars in a different form? Very few Hindu Sampradāyas argue that it would be Adharma. The rest treat it as some type of dēśa/kālōchita Dharma. Therefore, we have this type of Hindu universalism even towards very hostile religions. I don’t think this can be stopped.
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"...Going to a Church and praying to Jesus is perfectly fine and I have done it myself on many occasions. I often quote the Bible and my favorite verse is Matthew 25:40 ..."
Interesting.
I don't often quote bible and I don't have any favourite verse.
I don't go to Church. And I don't pray to Jesus.
I don't see any need to exhibit pro grade tolerance like this towards other religions. No one cares for this kind of tolerance display as far as I can see. It hasn't helped us over the years. Past two centuries in particular offer enough evidence.
You do your thing let them do their thing. No need to go over and above to demonstrate all embracing empathy and tolerance.
Just my view.
Sridhar Vembu@svembu
Laura Loomer appears not to know this, but as a Hindu, the entire Universe, all of it, is the Divine. Going to a Church and praying to Jesus is perfectly fine and I have done it myself on many occasions. I often quote the Bible and my favorite verse is Matthew 25:40 where Jesus says: 'Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brothers, you did it to me.'" That is the call to service. What would be a sin for me as a Hindu would be to call what other people hold sacred as "Demonic", which unfortunately a Christian pastor recently did to Hindu deities. That is why Sanatana Dharma is the most tolerant spiritual system in the world. The world needs to understand the eternal Dharma, if we all have to get along.
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@halleyji You are guilty of participating in Secret Santa programs at your IT workplace... 😎
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More on @AtharvaForum Substack here:
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This is arguably one of the best short form descriptions of culture in the Indian/Sanskrit context that I have come across.
"If there is something called culture in the Sanskrit/Indian context, it is entirely made possible by the assemblages of vidya-s, kala-s and anushtaana-s brought forth by these self-differentiating biocultural formations. Puranas and Itihaasa-s live on in the dynamically differentiated circuits of the biocultural formations. The ethos and idiom that the Sanskrit traditions unfolded and proliferated are responsively received and trans-formed by the Jatis. In other words, the colossal indefinite assemblages of Jatis, like all the foreign polities, peoples, and their languages, remained hospitable to the intimations articulated through the ethos and idiom of Sanskrit. One must also point out here that these heterogeneous complexes of Jatis lived on differently but shared aspects of an ethos and idiom and lived on without harbouring any genocidal impulses. No major Indian language can be said to have rejected hospitality to Sanskrit in the latter’s traversals”
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@halleyji Context:Laura Loomer, a Trump chamcha who happens to be Jewish, questioned the Hinduness of Tulsi Gabbard, a prominent American Hindu, for having made a Bible reference which she had every right to do. It’s not for Laura to judge a Hindu’s Hinduness. Good to see Hindu solidarity.
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@halleyji Some Muslims from Rajasthan don't eat meat looks like.
A friend ( Muslim ) in Hyd got his house refurnished and he employed those Muslims from Rajasthan.
On Eid, when he offered non-veg food to them, they refused saying, they don't eat.
He got surprised too.
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Didn't know about Muslim vegan and vegetarians.
I don't support veganism or vegetarianism as a single northstar ideal for everyone.
I don't have any interest in converting anyone as well.
But I wasn't aware that this a thing in the muslim context.
PETA India@PetaIndia
These vegan and vegetarian Muslims share what sacrifice means to them. Inspired? Take our pledge for a cruelty-free Eid: petain.vg/6qf #PETAIndia #EidAlAdha #Bakrid2026 #Goats #AnimalSacrifice #BanSection28
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Just PETA things
PETA India@PetaIndia
JUST UNVEILED: Meet Awaaz 🐐✨ PETA India’s endearing, child-like AI robot goat ‘Awaaz’ asks, ‘Do you consider me a friend… or food?’ He doesn’t want goats like him to be eaten. He will be visiting college campuses and city centres to spark empathy and remind us: goats want to live. PETA India aims to create more vegans and encourage slaughter-free expressions of sacrifice with Awaaz's help. petain.vg/bq7
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@VamseeJuluri Those 180 plus countries don't have enough pagan/kafir population surviving I guess. If Hindus are marginalized and museumised then perhaps Brahmins will get elevated status as ancient indigenous peoples.
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Just saw one of those "if your ancient Vedic ancestors were so smart how come you've been getting conquered for 2500 years" type posts.
Heard this at an Indian student event too last year (all these traditions introduced by Brahmins made us weak so we got conquered etc). My question is this:
How come you don't hear this being said about 180 plus (once "heathen/pagan/kafir") countries (contemporary count)? Is the silence because their condition isn't seen as a conquest?
Maybe it's time to recognize that being able to say "Hindu ancestors were conquered" is a sign we weren't really or fully conquered at all. We resisted. And we know that because we remember still who we were.
Just a thought.
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@maa_bhaishiiH Very difficult to react to everything here. That handle is a specialist in one kind of slop! It is very irritating..
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I know there are all sorts of theories.
Had posted about those theories in the past.
All these interpretations are also part of Hindu diversity I suppose 😂.
I don't agree with fancy interpretations that see Industrial revolution and enlightenment as some golden era resurgence moments.
I do think this is Kali Yuga. I can feel it in the air 😜
Evercurious@Evercurious1992
@halleyji What do you think about Sadhguru and Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri's opinion that we are not in Kaliyuga anymore ? Sadhguru says we are in Dwapara Yuga now and in 2082 AD, we will enter Treta Yuga.
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@Evercurious1992 Dating Mahabharata as a marker of end of Dwapara abd start of Kali era is something traditional people have done too. I don't have an issue with that. We need not obsess over dates and historicising. That's it.
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@halleyji But by dating our epics, it indirectly falsifies the aryan invasion theory that was thrusted upon us. So, wouldnt that be helpful in our civilizational narrative ?
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Yes.
The core belief is that Krishna indeed spoke to Arjuna on the MBh battlefield and what he spoke is indeed what is now known as Bhagavad Gita.
This belief cannot be clubbed as - "modern educated Hindu's obsession with अर्थवाद (literal material truths)".
That's like the definition of what Gita is. Ofcourse we need to be literalists there. Otherwise what are we even doing in the Hindu camp.
Infact modern educated Hindu's obsession with Indologisty interpretations are quite puzzling to me honestly.
The Deshastha@TradDeshastha
But Halleyji's position on this is entirely different. He doesn't like dating, least of all Nilesh Oak's takes. He is just saying that dating leads to takes like OP gave ala "akshually, Gita was a response to Nastika ideologies & inserted later". So then, did Bhagwan Krishna not give a discourse on the battlefield to Arjuna? At least for the lay believer or even student of Darshana, this dating thing unnecessarily complicates things (until better theological systems reconcile the complications).
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Anthropic’s Chris Olah at the Vatican press conference to present Pope Leo XIV’s encyclical on AI: “There is a real possibility that AI will displace human labor at very large scale. If that happens, supporting those displaced will be a moral imperative of historic proportions.”
Pope Leo wrote in the encyclical, “The pursuit of greater profits cannot justify choices that systematically sacrifice jobs, because the human person is an end, not a means, and the economic order must remain subordinate to human dignity and the common good.”
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