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@SecretArt43272 Bahaha. I’ll gladly see you break down when you realize hoyoverse has yet again written a story about humanity breaking free from the oppressing gods. Maybe playing hi3rd would give you a heart attack. Have nice dreams though :)

@handsofkairos Hurb moment anyway I don't like long threads so one last point before I sleep With how Nahida/Nicole/Skirk are talking, the writers are more interested in redeeming Phanes than vilifying them. I'm excited to see how you end up with Phanes being seen as a hero.

Actually I’m gonna leave off with this. It isn’t determined and free will does exist because will and choice is a major part of the power system and why PHANES has rebellions happen every year there week. And eternalism is how teyvat works. It is determinsm, but not in your way

@SecretArt43272 No actually, Phanes is a rapist because it trapped Voyager in the youth’s body no? Isn’t it forcing that “rape” you think exists? This is what happens when you get your opinion from bigoted Reddit and not the game :)

@SecretArt43272 Of course you’d call her a rapist, weird fuck. By your logic Phanes is also a rapist for taking away the bodily anatomy of the angels no? Or is that only when a character fight for freedom?

@SecretArt43272 Also you have no way to prove those aren’t all Phanes glazers the likes of you, given they clearly are from how they talk.

@SecretArt43272 From Reddit and YouTube, commonly known as the worst communities because everyone is bigoted … wow I wonder why they wouldn’t use facts and logic to talk about the lesbian revolutionary :)

@SecretArt43272 But ah, if my fav got slandered this hard, I’d also desperately try to vilify the character that said this :)

@SecretArt43272 You’re also extremely weird when it comes to Voyager discussion and clearly have a hate boner against her because she called out your colonizer. I genuinely do not care about anything that comes from you. Learn to actually engage with the game.

@SecretArt43272 @yellowschythe Screenshot directly from OP. The conversation is also long over. I am also not interested with arguing with you because you’re the third person butting in to the conversation with obvious bias.

@handsofkairos @yellowschythe It isn’t cherry picking when the Traveler acknowledges the fate system and how it is likely made for a good reason. They haven’t finished creating a stance regarding HP ideology but the literal protagonist believes in it’s just creation. Linnea is also fine with fate.

@yellowschythe Do you even enjoy the game when all you do is cherry pick every single piece of lore so it fits your own narrative? What are you gonna do when the storyline stops following your own delusions? Surely you don’t believe you’re genuinely on the right track.

@yellowschythe Anyways genuinely this isn’t against you, but I don’t feel like continuing this because it’s going nowhere. You have your bias and you won’t change, which is something I unfortunately saw happen several times already.

@yellowschythe Cool and they’re still wrong for doing that? They made their own shackling fate? If the universal fate is bad and you agree that it is then so is theirs? Like nobody’s denying the system is there for a reason it just sucks and doesn’t contribute anything good.

@handsofkairos Then that’s like a problem that PHANES is beyond. because fate is a universal phenomenon that the voyagers race is dedicated to prophesying. PHANES just isolated a local fate system to stir things away from determined oblivion

@yellowschythe LMFAO well no. This is what we call irony. Imposing a new fate to try to escape another one. Except fate is predetermined in this case..

@handsofkairos You do realize PHANES is fighting against a greater fate that says all fall to oblivion right? And maybe the acceptance of fate and the will to keep on living is encouraged because it helps against that?

@yellowschythe No, because the humans still have imposed fates. Breaking fate is also a thing they talk about in determinism, you should read about it once again:)

@handsofkairos Okay. The angels don’t have free will. And they are distinct from humans. That means humans have free will.

@yellowschythe Good job! This is free will. That is liberating yourself from fate, not staying within fate. This is literally Vedrfolnir’s blasphemy, please don’t try to claim it’s within the HP’s plan lol.

@handsofkairos Uh? No? If your choices lead you to break it then it means your choices aren’t determined by the system. Also if Linnea in accepting fate and living life to the fullest broke fate but also is what your supposed to do and encouraged to do-

@yellowschythe The rebellion happened .. specifically because Koitar gained free will from Voyager. Putting it as an example is ironic. Please just leave it there at this point, this is clearly a subject you don’t handle well because you think your fav can’t possibly be wrong about will.

@yellowschythe Breaking free from fate .. is outside of the system. It’s literally the goal of the abyss order, don’t shoot yourself in the foot. Again this is the illusion of free will. It's not free will, let alone that I was originally talking about the angels.

@RedWerewolf2 My guy, if you wouldn’t have accepted to hide a Jewish person in your house to protect them because it puts you in danger, which is exactly your mentality as shown, then yes you’re a bad person. I’m using examples to make you understand you’re not a good person.

@handsofkairos Oh? First trump and now Nazi? Is that the best argument when you no little to nothing about me? I haven't compared you to anyone, now have I? Resorting to such is a clear sign you don't gave an argument. If someone is dying infront of me, but to save them, I have to kill my-

Just love how everyone is taking this literally as if saying that is a normal term of phrase people use to describes other. The most strawman thing I’ve seen all day. ITS NOT ABOUT WHAT WE LITERALLY ARE. It’s about WHY she’s saying it like that to begin with.

@RedWerewolf2 The fact you don’t see anything wrong with that is why you need to educate yourself and go out of your privileged comfort zone. It’s because of people like you the conservatives are winning worldwide. Good. Night.

@handsofkairos I didn't bomb the middle east, nor did I support it. I just didn't parade to the white house for the sake of my and my family's well being. I don't see anything wrong with that.