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Building Mathematical Superintelligence

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Harmonic@HarmonicMath·
Many of us intuitively feel that the field of mathematics is going to change, so let's unpack the likely outcomes, without resorting to hyperbole or doomerism.
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Harmonic@HarmonicMath·
ICYMI: A few quality of life improvements landed in Aristotle Web to make it much more interactive and responsive: ▪ Live Updates. Aristotle can now share updates while it's in the middle of a run, so that you always know what it's doing and whether it's on track. ▪ Steering. You can message Aristotle while it's working if you want to redirect it, or if you just want to let it know it's doing a great job. Keep the feedback coming; we'll continue cooking ...
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Bartosz Naskręcki
Bartosz Naskręcki@nasqret·
Today at the New York Number Theory Seminar, Wouter and Pietro were discussing their new paper. Really cool use of the AI-human feedback loop, with Aristotle as the main AI ingredient. I explained how I think formalization feels like doing the low-tech steps of algebraic geometry proofs with commutative algebra. You can have high-brow intuitions, but eventually one has to prove all the details. I wonder how this will evolve, but we are definitely at the level of assembly language being written by models like Aristotle. Tactics feel like the first glimpses of higher-level programming principles. The next step might be a more conversational style of working with the models. I am now working on a tighter integration of Lean with computer algebra languages. Stay tuned!
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Pietro Monticone@PietroMonticone

Here's what András Sárközy, Erdős's most prolific collaborator, asked 25 years ago: "How small can one make the maximal gap between the consecutive elements of a multiplicative Sidon set selected from {1, 2, ..., n}?" In particular: does there exist a multiplicative Sidon set A ⊆ {1, 2, …, n} such that every sub-interval of [1, n] of length at least √n contains at least one element of A? The answer is yes. The solution was autonomously discovered and formally verified in #Lean by Aristotle. We then improved the bound below √n and Aristotle formalised our proof too.

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Pietro Monticone@PietroMonticone·
Here's what András Sárközy, Erdős's most prolific collaborator, asked 25 years ago: "How small can one make the maximal gap between the consecutive elements of a multiplicative Sidon set selected from {1, 2, ..., n}?" In particular: does there exist a multiplicative Sidon set A ⊆ {1, 2, …, n} such that every sub-interval of [1, n] of length at least √n contains at least one element of A? The answer is yes. The solution was autonomously discovered and formally verified in #Lean by Aristotle. We then improved the bound below √n and Aristotle formalised our proof too.
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Lorenzo Luccioli
Lorenzo Luccioli@LorenzoLuccioli·
I used @HarmonicMath's Aristotle to formalize Erdős problem #426 in Lean 4… and ended up fully verifying a stronger bound that the original paper only suggested 🧵 Erdős offered $25 for a disproof, and $100 if the conjecture was true 👇
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Pietro Monticone
Pietro Monticone@PietroMonticone·
Nathanson has just published the recording of his talk about Aristotle’s solutions and it is very interesting to watch! “I tried to figure out what it did that I didn’t do to solve the problems.” “The incredibly clever idea that Aristotle had was…” youtu.be/VBIxv-6m7sk
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Pietro Monticone@PietroMonticone

Interesting update: a few days ago, Nathanson presented a talk at the New York Number Theory Seminar explaining how Aristotle solved some of his problems.

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Harmonic@HarmonicMath·
Cool use of Aristotle to power formal verification inside a lambda calculus lab
Bartosz Naskręcki@nasqret

I think a radical new viewpoint is emerging on the many activities that mathematicians do. Perhaps a novel profession of mathematical engineering is emerging from the early chaos of AI for mathematics. I can see very clearly that the coordination, setup, technical pursuit, and orchestration of AI systems scaled for massive mathematical efforts and projects will require a special engineering mindset that is currently lacking, or almost completely absent, in mathematical projects. The existence of such a profession is not in opposition to mathematical tinkerers who use their artisanal craft to produce genuinely novel content. As with any kind of content, someone needs to adapt it to the grand scheme of things. This is why these roles are starting to appear complementary rather than competitive. Maybe this is a temporary activity, soon to be replaced by computers, but I think the major role of mathematical engineers will be to stay in touch with the tinkerers and provide a human cushion around their internal activities. I am enjoying this kind of activity (*), where you orchestrate with models and see how the project itself becomes a challenge in design and scale. This might well mean more jobs for mathematicians. In the long run, I suspect we may become secondary cognitive powers in parts of the mathematical information chain. But I do not think this will happen very soon across the whole system. And I hope it never happens at the most human layer: the joy people feel when a new idea is born. (*) This project is essentially a lambda-calculus lab, fully integrated with classical topics such as Church’s lambda calculus, the Aristotle formal proofs system, and extensions over particular papers. I presented it to students at the workshop in Warszawa-Falenty and was very pleased with the result. I am now using this framework for proof development. What strikes me most is that this is primarily an engineering challenge: the mathematics entering the pipeline is being handled, structured, and formalized, but not radically developed inside the pipeline itself.

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Harmonic@HarmonicMath·
Aristotle is getting more and more capable, assisting mathematicians not just in formalization but also discovery. Team continues to cook 🔥
Pietro Monticone@PietroMonticone

"Aristotle's proof is correct, simple, elegant, and beautiful. It uses techniques in the original paper and adds its own new ideas. I am amazed and impressed by what Aristotle has done." This is what Melvyn Nathanson, a leading additive number theorist and longtime Erdős collaborator, wrote to me after reading solutions by Aristotle (@HarmonicMath) to two problems he had posed earlier this year. Our paper answers Nathanson's Problems 10 and 11 on product intersection sets in semigroups, and also settles the second parts of Problems 4 and 7 as corollaries.

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Eric Weinstein@ericweinstein·
Pure mathematics will be mostly unrecognizable. Like very early black and white talkies becoming color home theater. Today’s math will not be unwatchable like silent pictures, but even that will happen eventually too. This AI math hype cycle will have crashed in wildly overclaimed tech CEO BS, but the CEOs will be proven to be correct for the cycles that followed. Older mathematicians and younger colleagues may be seriously divided in a way that we haven’t seen. Papers will not exist in the same way. You will have an automatically adaptive custom presentation based on your abilities and interests. Many established results will survive revelations that the proofs in the literature were flawed. This will be very disturbing to mathematicians. We will find out that a lot of problems we thought were hard were actually completely misgauged. Machines will write for each other and translate to English when needed. There will be too much Mathematics to sort through. Amateurs will submit their machine’s results which will be AI verified as valid. The successors to LLMs will relentlessly rely on a few main tricks to generate nonimmitative discoveries. LLMs in math will have crashed. It’s going to be both ego crushing and magnificent. A tragedy and a liberation. Currently Unthinkable Visualizations will democratize what can be understood. Like exotic structures on 7-spheres. Humans will still matter. But less and less so. They will move from doing research to directing it. We will get worse in a sense at mathematics as we atrophy. But the machines will compensate for that too. Computers may invent new areas or “theories” by 7 years. But maybe not. Hard to say. Our abysmal Mathematical pedagogy will have finally fallen. ——- One math PhD’s guess anyway, in 2026.
Paata Ivanisvili@PI010101

What will mathematics look like 7 years from now? I’m really curious to hear your brief opinion.

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Harmonic@HarmonicMath·
Source: #2-secondary-contributions-by-ai-tools" target="_blank" rel="nofollow noopener">github.com/teorth/erdospr…
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Harmonic@HarmonicMath·
Update: Aristotle has been used to autoformalize 105 of the 115 Erdős problem formalizations produced by AI tools, i.e. 91% of the total. This includes formalizations of classical proofs such as Pólya (1918), Barrow and Mordell (1937), Hall (1947), de Bruijn (1951), and Lorentz (1954), alongside very recent proofs such as Tao (2026), He–Li–Tang (2026), Pomerance (2026), and Chojecki (2026).
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